Brewology

Okay so I know not all of you live in Canada but I wouldn't be surprised if you have heard about this. What is happening is that Stéphane Dion, Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe are trying to overtake the Canadian Conservative Government. From what I understand it is because Quebec wants to separate from Canada by having there own Government, but can't do it because they would not have enough votes. So that is why they are trying to take over the Government so Canada can have one big vote so they could become there own Government. Then I am guessing give it to either Jack Layton, or Gilles Duceppe because Stéphane Dion would most likely become the new Quebec Government. So are current Prime Minister Stephen Harper is trying to shut down are Parliament until this dispute is over. By doing that we would not be able to vote.

So I know must of you don't really care because it most likely doesn't involve you. But do you really think this is right, it is illegal to do what they are trying to do but they are still going to try, because if this works. They are safe, so nothing would happen to them. But now all of Canada is pretty upset about this whole ordeal they are blaming it all on Stephen Harper. So that is going to be a plus to the Pro Coalition people.

I think this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of, because if they do succeed okay, Quebec becomes there own Government, they are most likely going to fail because, they are going to become bankrupt and there new government is going to collapse. Well that's what I think would most likely happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Canad ... ry_dispute

Quebecs are dumba**es
i mean come on your living in one you the best countries and you want to become your own country that nobody would care about?
These people are like the freaking mexicans in the U.S. who think New Mexico should break apart and we their our country
GTFO and die
Damn french people

I mean like seriously, its time to put this BS "ethnic/language/culture" crap aside and unite. Stop looking at our differences and embrace our similarities
These bastards are just trying to divide the human population even more and cause more conflict.
We all know how this is going to end.
Canada boycotts them and not allow other countries to send them foods, either they go to war or the damn government collapses and becomes part of canada again
These separationist should be executed in cruel and unusual way for the cruel and unusual proposes they make like dividing the human race even more.

I'm so sick of people fighting each other just because one is light tan, the other is tan or one speaks french english while the other speaks english and french.
like wtf

Or part of the USA. Lol. Or the NWO. LFMAO even harder!
I don't believe color or language is anything to fight over but it should still be heavily embraced.
As for what's happening in Canada specifically, I don't really understand what is happening.
The Conservatives are literally going to remove Quebec from Canada?
What about the people who want to live as a Canadian that live in Quabec?
How will they do this?

Nonono. The Conservative is the current government, they are good. The liberals. are trying to remove Quebec from Canada. And the liberal leader has brought two other leader's into this game to.

It is not the first time that Quebec has tried this and I doubt they will succeed this time.

Oh, so someone that knows a lot about the American government and Canadian government help me out.
Is it like having a trust between most of the senators so that they can select their own President that will heavily reward them and ultimately corrupt the entire government that can do anything they want except instead of controlling the entire country, they legally form their own country using sociological innovation?

I don't know anything about that I mean that is how it looks at least on the surface.

Here in the US apparently Texas can become it's own country if it wanted to because of their agreement when they Joined the union.

Anyhow there are too many people that are for unification. I mean "globalization" is a household word. I just don't think Canada will break apart. Neither will Texas for that matter.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

Actually I think that is a myth Que - about Texas. I know that Texas can split itself into 5 separate states, but I'm not sure about the seceding.

nope, we went over the treaty in class, they can
thats why so many members of the "truth" movement go live there to try and secede from the U.S. i think

Well today, the Government shut down Parliament until Jan. Which is a really good thing because that means Dion can not make a vote until then. But by then I would think that it would be over, and he will hopefully be fired/put in jail.

loll two days ago i talked to guy from quebec on xbox live, he barely know english
and he had NO IDEA this was going on WTFFFF

Okay, about Texas: No, it cannot secede nor split into other states at will.
It would be just as hard as other states to be split.
And secession is illegal anyways! There's been like 200 secession attempts in America and each one failed.
I think the two latest where Utah and Montana earlier this year.

The US Constitution states that “Texas is a free and independent State. Take it for what it is worth.

Secession isn't illegal because joining the “ Union” was always voluntary!(or strongly recommended but never manditory.

All political power is inherent in the people so the people at all times have the right to alter their government as they see fit.

So if the people want their state to become an independent nation so be it!

Will it ever happen? NO. Bunch of spineless M)&*#RF)(*(^$!

You can actually secede, it's really easy.
But, it's not legal. It's like saying committing suicide is illegal. (Which it is) You can do it and they can't do anything to punish you after you've done it, but it's still illegal.

An act is only illegal if it is stated in writing as a violation of expected conduct. Attempting suicide is illegal but succeeding at suicide is not I guess as stated for obvious reasons.

Just like if you want to change your government. It is legal to do that at any time but if you go about it the wrong way you could end up being charged with treason or sedition.

The US Constitution is the document that is the foundation for the myriad of laws that organize this country. So if it is there then there should be a law covering it and so since there isn't then seceding is not illegal.

It is often stated that seceding from the union is illegal for any state to accomplish but for that to be true it has to be in writing that such an act is forbidden. As far as I know, it is not specifically stated in the US constitution or any document for that matter that secession IS illegal.

Texas is special because it broke away from Mexico before becoming part of the US. In fact Texas was an independent republic for a while, (republic, not a state) being neither part of Mexico or the US. Being a free and independent republic, Texas wanted the option to opt out of the union if things did not work out which explains why we are even having this debate.

On the subject of Texas breaking up into 5 states I found this:
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp