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Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:41 pm
by crait
So, they recently passed a bill that would make marriage legal in New York between any two people.
What do you guys think? It is my religious belief that gay marriage is wrong, but I absolutely believe that the government should not and must not determine who people can marry. I honestly think that before people make gay marriage illegal, they need to make marriage between two people who hate each other illegal since it seems more people marry that way than homosexually.

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:18 pm
by BKFraiders7
I'm a Southern. I'm Baptist (just not that crazy southern baptist..there's a difference).

My views are common among us. Homosexuality is wrong. I have covered that the Bible mentions it is wrong. So homosexual marriage, in my view is wrong. Besides that, government shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's a church thing.

They should call it something different between two homosexuals...hmmm maybe Domestic Partnership? There's an idea

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:21 pm
by crait
Why is the government allowed to say what marriage is? You said... "Besides that, government shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's a church thing."

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:59 pm
by BKFraiders7
crait wrote:Why is the government allows to say what marriage is? You said... "Besides that, government shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's a church thing."


Im confused about this statement.

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:02 pm
by crait
[Allows = Allowed*]
You said that it's a church thing, so why must the government uphold a church thing?

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:04 pm
by irishdragon85
ok here is my opinion i was raised in the southern baptist church btu i am now a pagan and personally i dont think there is anything wrong with it. i mean we have all watched lesbian porn at one point or another right? so why should there be a stigma attached to homosexuality in general? and personally as for it being a "church thing" thats bogus the christian church nor any religion for that matter has the right to tell their followers how to live thier life. look towards the bible everytime someone mentions homosexuality being a sin they always bring up sodom and gommorah well that was then this is now. the christian holy book was written over 2000 years ago in a different time things have changede so therefore your religion shouls change with it not stick to an outdated dogma. if they want to marry and have kids and everythign let them this country is treating homosexuals the same way they treated alot of people back in hte day as nothignn more than second class citizens. and while i am not gay i am for their rights why shouldnt they get married? why shouldnt they have kids? last time i checked they were people too with the same rights as the rest of us.

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:33 pm
by BKFraiders7
crait wrote:[Allows = Allowed*]
You said that it's a church thing, so why must the government uphold a church thing?


They shouldnt? Maybe you read my post wrong?

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:24 am
by ace
Obviously like bkf, I was raised in the south and am a baptist so I think homosexuality is an abomination. Even outside of religion I don't understand why anyone would believe it to be right, why would there be male and female? I'm not one for invading peoples lives but homosexuality crosses the line a little too far for me.

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:55 am
by crait
BKF, I guess I read your post wrong.... Ace, are you for allowing them to marry even though you're personally against it? And yes, I was raised Southern Baptist, too. :O
irishdragon85, I don't think religions should change with the times. I think religions can all be accurately applied to today's standards without seeming absurd.

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:09 am
by ace
Umm, no? I didn't say that, I meant I'm not one for invading peoples lives when it comes to small stuff. Making it legal for homosexuals to get married though I do not agree with.

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:15 am
by irishdragon85
i'll concede the fact that maybe just maybe religion shouldnt change with the times, but there is a major problem with religion (and yes i am including paganism in that) and that is no matter what you believe there is gonna be a stigma attached to it. personally i abhor certain points of christianity but on the other hand there are some points about it that i think are ok same with judaism islam hinduism taoism and buddhism. i'm just saying that personally for me christianity is bogus. i have nothgin against the people that practise it nor the religion itsself just certain points of it and the whole homosexuality being a damnable sin is just one of the many many many many many aspects of it i cant get behind there are others that i will not get in to. (manily for the reason that i dont wanna piss anybody off :P and if i have already done so then i apologise) and can any of yall tell me with a straight face that you dont think that America as a whole treats the GLBT community as second class citizens?

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:10 pm
by crait
I know for a fact that the 'GLBT community' is treated wrong. And I know that gays that aren't a part of that group are treated wrong, too. No one is denying that. One that I am saying is that religion is not the reason why they are treated the way that they are.

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:27 pm
by irishdragon85
religion might not be the MAIN reason they are treated the way they are biut it plays a part. everytime somoen mentions homosexuality being wrong they bring up the bible. what i'm saying is that maybe just maybe the entire country needs to rethink some things and new york legalizing it is just the first step will it stop the hate crimes and everything? no not right away but they will eventually stop

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:46 pm
by BKFraiders7
ace wrote:Obviously like bkf, I was raised in the south and am a baptist so I think homosexuality is an abomination. Even outside of religion I don't understand why anyone would believe it to be right


Sometimes I truly wish everyone was raised in the South...

and the true south (GA, AL, SC, NC, MISS)....none of this Texas and Florida bullcrap

Re: Gay Marriage In New York Is Now Legal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:28 pm
by Puncharger
I Agree with you. Well with your views on gay marriage but not this -

BKFraiders7 wrote:none of this Texas and Florida bullcrap


lol the majority of the people in Florida are "suth-ern".

I would know XD