Evolution vs Creation

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Yea you must be readin niv version or some weird version. Ever since I found out the same company that made my NIV version bible, was also one of teh largest producers of porn I just quit readin the NIV version XD I like King James version. But then again, I try and read the old bibles mor ethen NIV because they are more true then NIV version. Since obviously after a few thousand years some words are going to be the same. What version you got? Cuz that's wrong man, I'm pretty sure it doesn't say "us" or "our" when one of the books are talking about God. I do know God doesn't explain everything but why should we have to know? It isn't like it's going to matter when we die or anything. I just care about the present and what's going to happen, not what happened before. Unless it's something important to survival like benjamin franklin and that kite XD.

the christmas tree thing is an example of how catholicism and christianity adopted pagan traditions. its an off shoot. the people who made the bible designed it so people could readily accept it. why would a book so set in stone have to adapt itself to other religions? there are too many interpretations of the bible to decide which one is RIGHT. too many rules all saying the same thing. humans are evil and we should suffer everyday for it.

dont get me wrong the message is GREAT. dont hurt people love thy neighbor. but all the stuff like the apple, missionary position, no gays, crusades, salem witch trials.... you dont see Buddhists dealing with all that

heh h4s30 DID explain it better. hes right.

as for the big bang... data just points that way really. the universe is getting farther and farther apart so naturally its plausible it used to all be REALLY REALLY close together at some point.

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How did the bible adapt to other religions? It doesn't even refer to a "Christmas tree". And we don't know if it was an apple...could've been any fruit. But th reason it deals w/ stuff like gays is because it's wrong. I mean really, stuff like gays are wrong but it's got to say that or we wouldn't know if it was right or wrong. But the bible doesn't talk about the crusades or the salem witch trials.... So yea, your wrong bout that. Your right bout the humans being evil thing which is just sin. But I don't really care about crusades or salem witch trials. That's just stupid and off topic. Especially since the salem witch trials happened after the bible was wrote XD.

O and @ h4s30 (dude whered you get that username from? lol)
When the bible said "our's" and stuff I think it meant the trinity but i dunno know. Like I said King James version of the bible is the best. It's not necessarily a different "version" but just rewritten by King James subjects into the modern language so people could understand it.

honestly i believe in both, because i believe in a god and such, someone to look over us, but he is ot the one that created the universe, i mean, if he did create it, why only put life on earth i our whole slar system? so i believe we come from the evoluion of other species

i wasnt saying that was IN the bible ace. im just saying the religion adapted. its been blatantly changed over the years. whatever the bibles ORIGINAL message was, was lost completely in whoever ruled the world at that time. i personally dont think gays are wrong though you love who you love. love is only wrong if you try to force it out of someone or if they are incapable of understanding what it means.

and if IM off topic so are you because this thread is about evolution vs creationism not the bible

where did h4s30 come from
well i'll take a little time out of the heated arguement to explain
there's a new trilogy out called .hack//G.U some may already know about .hack// some don't i'll explain it anyways
well back during the eariler days of the ps2 bandai launched a franchise known as .hack it spans some novels, anime, and games
well anyways in the new series the main character is called haseo the terror of death and after watching the .hack//roots (the prequel to the new games) and playing volume 1 I just thought he was badass
anyways i forgot where i was registering i think some hentai place i forget jk but the name "haseo" was already taken
well i've read a neat little graphic novel called megatokyo and it uses some 13375p34k so i just added so of that in there and bam
thats where h4s30 came from
any other questions feel free to asked

back to topic
i read two different bibles and they both said the same thing i didn't check but i'll shoot for an old donkey bible to read though
anyways the big bang theory explains that the universe was this hot mass and then as time continues the universe expands and supposedly there are waves in like space that reflect this theory thats about all i know though

anyways supposedly creationism is based off the bible but they're so many different interpretations of the damn bible that there's a different theory of creationism for everyday of the year its rediculous

but yunoko needs to make a new argument thread because this one is getting boring lol

[Kanadier]

to be honest, I beleave that God created the stuff, and made it so it can change over time... although, in evolution they say that animals evolve to stay alive, well then if we evolved from gorillas, howcome thair still alive? and wherer the homosapien?

honestly i believe in both, because i believe in a god and such, someone to look over us, but he is ot the one that created the universe, i mean, if he did create it, why only put life on earth i our whole slar system? so i believe we come from the evoluion of other species

You could be wrong. (i believe most likely that you are) since theres millions/billions of stars with their own solar systems,
which pretty much contains planets revolving around it. Who sais there isnt life on any of those?
Most of our planets in our solar system (almost all of them, except for pluto since its not a planet anymore) contain gases,
and others are ones with no air support or an atmosphere.
Infact though, recently theres been reported worms from outerspace.

evolution.

evolution has been proven by science in many ways like slight changes in skeletons over millions of years.

creation is just a small myth, nothing can back it up with hard evidence.

[Kanadier]

more than half of scientists around the world admit that they drilled those down, or some where just monkeys with birth defects.

evolution.

evolution has been proven by science in many ways like slight changes in skeletons over millions of years.

creation is just a small myth, nothing can back it up with hard evidence.

lol creation isn't just a small myth kiddo many people live their life hoping this is true some people's very foundations that this God person created this, that and everything else in this universe

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Yea creation isn't a small myth at all. Heck, how do you think they got AD and BC? It can't be because of the way they teach kids now. I was always told when I was a little kid that AD was after death and BC was before christ. It's not a myth by far. I mean a lot of scientist's will agree there really was a man named Jesus alive during the period of time he was. And there still isn't even hard evidence that evolution is true.

ok proof of evolution isnt just in primate remains. in every creatures remains there is tons of proof that evolution exists.

that time measurement was made back they still believed in spontaneous generation. the earth is OLDER then the bible says btw

yeah and then i learned AD actually meant anno domini which is latin *sp?* for after the death of our lord i don't know what BC means

anyways

an interesting point is one of God's days could be longer than one of our days