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Post Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:29 pm

Ok, forget what everyone says for right now except for Mr Samsa because he knows his stuff (and myself, of course). He's right about the 8800 gt. They just released a rather affordable 512mb version of that card that many are raving about. As far as ram goes, look for the fastest speed that will work for your motherboard. If you're going to build the computer yourself, aim for a motherboard that uses DDR2 800 ram. That is one of the "sweet spots" as far as "bang for buck" is concerned, and that will leave you speechless with the results you'll be getting. You should shoot for 2gb of ram, but hey, if you're going to use a 32-bit operating system, you can put 3gb in there pretty safely. Most computers that you buy at the store will have a 32-bit version of windows, and on those systems, 4gb of ram will not fully show up because it subtracts your video memory from the total system memory, so don't make a poor investment in that department. Also, if you're going to pick a computer from a store, you should make sure that it has 4 dimm slots (used for memory expansion) and at least one pci-e x16 or pci-e 2.0 (which runs at x32) for a graphics card.

Another essentially vital component of the computer that you have to worry about, if you're buying a store-bought computer, is the power supply. Most computers will come with a weak power supply that will supply only enough power for the base system. If upgrading the graphics card, you should really upgrade the power supply. If you buy the suggested 8800 gt (512mb version by EVGA is my recommendation), you should really look for a power supply with 500-600W that has dual +12 volt rails that each, combined, operate at a around 32A. The higher, the better.

I recommend the EVGA brand for graphics cards because they have a 90-day step-up program that will allow you to send your card back to the factory and allow for an upgrade. You may have to pay the difference in the prices. The program works like this. You send it in, have about a 2 week wait, and you have your new graphics card that you requested. If you pay $220 for your graphics card, you officially bought a $220 coupon from EVGA ;). If the upgrade costs more, you'll be required to pay the difference, but I'm not sure if they will give a refund if the upgrade is a lower price... would be a good question to ask them though. Prices on graphics cards have dropped a bit recently and I expect it to continue.

Sorry for chatting your ears off though, hope I helped.

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Post Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:45 pm

Got an idea. Do everything Pac says and... Find a person with a nice computer in your area, such as a rich freshman. Go to his/her house and steal it. Swap out what parts you need and throw the rest in the closet.

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Post Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:32 pm

ace_012 wrote:And I noticed civilchoas said "RAM, this is your virtual memory". Nice one, lol. RAM is the actual little cards you stick into the RAM slots on your mobo. It's similar to virtual memory, but it isn't virtual. Virtual memory or paging file, is some space on your hard drive used as virtual RAM.

And correct me if I'm wrong but the shader version doesn't have anything to do with your processor speed. Has more to do with your video adapter.


You're right mate, I go on for too long and then my brain dis-engages with the rest of my body. I don't know what I was thinking when i said that.. (hangs head in shame) I don't even remember saying about the shaders having anything to do with my CPU, I know they are graphics card related.. oh well :D
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Post Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:13 pm

Well I mean all you really said was that you have a 3Ghz processor, and you don't have shaders 3.0. But I know what yah mean, it's all cool. Why should he forget what everyone is saying dpm? So he should only take advice from you and Mr. Samsa? No advice from no one else? Excuse my rudeness, but I would think that if he got more opinions from a wide range of people with different backgrounds then it would help him more indeed, especially when you don't know any of our backgrounds (at least not mine) when it comes to computer hard ware or software.
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Post Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:13 pm

Hell yeh go the 8800GT thats what im running and its brilliant definatly suggest getting one.
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Post Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:48 pm

Well I'll be making the upgrade myself so I'm all ears too :D
though I don't even have a budget, I'm thinking of getting the cheapest graphics card that will run current gen graphics (pref' with 3.0 shader compatibility) ;)
I know what I'm doing but it seems I haven't kept up with hardware releases and I'll no doubt make the move to Vista, once most of the bugs have been sorted out.

btw I have a tendency to break computers, just me being near one is enough XD
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Post Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:38 pm

Got an idea. Do everything Pac says and... Find a person with a nice computer in your area, such as a rich freshman. Go to his/her house and steal it. Swap out what parts you need and throw the rest in the closet.

~SEGAGG


i like it when would a freshman ever need a nice computer lol
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Post Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:04 pm

Civilchaos u could go for the 8600GT graphics card then if u dnt want to spend a bundle its rather good i was ganna get that but i ended up getting the 8800GT cause i had teh cash.
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Post Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:03 pm

lol, fair do's. I'll make a note of that when i get round to making actual decisions. cheers
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