New Apple Macbooks/Pro

[JustinWoodypond]

For some reason I doubt it is easier to run XP/Vista on a mac than it is on a PC...
Macs are only good for graphics/audio stuff imo. I use one for my church to do presentations and they don't have a very bad learning curve, although having only 1 mouse button gets on my nerves pretty quickly. For personal use though, I will stick to PC's. Theres no reason to get a mac for personal use.

Well I meant it's easier to run XP/Vista on Mac than OSX is to run on PC.

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i mean steve jobs even thinks the itouch is the best portable gaming platform.

so if anyone ever sees someone playing a vdeo game. cause thats what windows users can do

LMFAO.

[BKFraiders7]

Im running OSX 10.52 on my Dell E1505 right now.

Everything works too. I only use my Vista partion for school work now.

the mac is for people with video interest. graphic interests or music interests.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. Macs are for retards.
Simply put.
I have major art interests and I use XP for that. I make movies, music, games, graphics, you name it.
I would never want to use a Mac for any of that.
I hate Macs the same reason I hate Facebook.
They're both way too difficult to use for the task they serve.
You want to do something cool on a Mac? To bad, you have to go through a long process to get to where you want to be instead of it being right in front of you. Or you have to push a 5 button "short" key to get it to pop up. It can be soo much easier. Apple just doesn't want it to be.
They'd rather it be pretty than actually do anything.


@DoctaMario:
You've never gotten a Virus on a Mac because, well, no one owns a Mac.
I've never gotten a virus on my PC. I'm running XP and I go to torrent and rom sites all the time.
Guess what. The only anti-virus thing I have is SpyBot, which I never use.
I hate how people say Mac's are better because they don't get viruses because computers really don't get viruses.
People get viruses. People who actually know how to use their computer don't get viruses.
And vista's actually pretty cool once you take all the extra 3rd party s-word they put on it.

The amount of prejudice in this topic is sickening, but meh, I'll bite.

If you don't care about the stuff you're working on, then yeah, you should definitely use a PC. I'm a musician and I do a lot of recording and production on my Mac, and I have friends who use PC recording programs, and each and every one of them has lost data because Windows sees fit to randomly lock up. Macs are only difficult to use if you've never used one, which you obviously haven't or you wouldn't be saying half the junk you're saying.

Computers get viruses. Macs don't get them most of the time because programmers don't bother writing them for Macs, partialy because back in the day no one owned them. They're a huge market now (which kinda worries me a bit because I don't want to start having to worry about more out there) I agree with you that people who don't know how to use their computers get more viruses, but that's more of an issue for PC users than it is Mac users.

I'm not saying you should switch, I'm saying you should get knowledge about the topic at hand before you start popping off at the mouth, because you obviously have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

[JustinWoodypond]

the mac is for people with video interest. graphic interests or music interests.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. Macs are for retards.
Simply put.
I have major art interests and I use XP for that. I make movies, music, games, graphics, you name it.
I would never want to use a Mac for any of that.
I hate Macs the same reason I hate Facebook.
They're both way too difficult to use for the task they serve.
You want to do something cool on a Mac? To bad, you have to go through a long process to get to where you want to be instead of it being right in front of you. Or you have to push a 5 button "short" key to get it to pop up. It can be soo much easier. Apple just doesn't want it to be.
They'd rather it be pretty than actually do anything.




@DoctaMario:
You've never gotten a Virus on a Mac because, well, no one owns a Mac.
I've never gotten a virus on my PC. I'm running XP and I go to torrent and rom sites all the time.
Guess what. The only anti-virus thing I have is SpyBot, which I never use.
I hate how people say Mac's are better because they don't get viruses because computers really don't get viruses.
People get viruses. People who actually know how to use their computer don't get viruses.
And vista's actually pretty cool once you take all the extra 3rd party s-word they put on it.

The amount of prejudice in this topic is sickening, but meh, I'll bite.

If you don't care about the stuff you're working on, then yeah, you should definitely use a PC. I'm a musician and I do a lot of recording and production on my Mac, and I have friends who use PC recording programs, and each and every one of them has lost data because Windows sees fit to randomly lock up. Macs are only difficult to use if you've never used one, which you obviously haven't or you wouldn't be saying half the junk you're saying.

Computers get viruses. Macs don't get them most of the time because programmers don't bother writing them for Macs, partialy because back in the day no one owned them. They're a huge market now (which kinda worries me a bit because I don't want to start having to worry about more out there) I agree with you that people who don't know how to use their computers get more viruses, but that's more of an issue for PC users than it is Mac users.

I'm not saying you should switch, I'm saying you should get knowledge about the topic at hand before you start popping off at the mouth, because you obviously have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

I concur. Fanboys are sad.

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If you don't care about the stuff your working on? What if I actually care about a video game I am making? Like you said, the PC market is still larger so why should I waste my time and developing a game for macs. I still stick with the notion, macs cost to much to have in your house unless your doing something productive along the line of traditional creative arts, especially if it's your job.

About the viruses, I've had my computer since around mid May, and have yet to get a virus. I've had maybe 2 or 3 trojan horses, that Avast! deleted halfway through the download and that is it. Not to mention Avast! is free. But you are incorrect about "computers get viruses", it's more about what OS is on them. Linux doesn't get that many viruses at all, and it's ran on tons of PC's.

Just saying.

Macs run Windows just as well as a PC. 2-3 operating systems > one operating system

(before you say PCs can run mac os x as well, mac os x does not run natively on PCs, you need a 3rd party OS loader to do so, and this will not take advantage of the full power of os x)

Anyway, macs are extremely well engineered. crait i'd have to say you're talking bullsh1t tbh. OS X is very powerful and easy to use, and instead of windows XP crashing several times a day, when on my mac I come across a crash maybe once a week. Also, the unix core that mac os x is built on is far more secure than the windows framework. It is absolutely true that windows is more vulnerable to exploits than mac os x.

I honestly and unbiased believe that Macs pwn PCs running windows in nearly every possible way. The only drawback is the sky high price. If I get a mac, it won't be from the apple store, it will be hot. ;D Maybe I'll come across one of these new macbook pro 17" lappys sitting in an empty office somewhere...

If you don't care about the stuff your working on? What if I actually care about a video game I am making? Like you said, the PC market is still larger so why should I waste my time and developing a game for macs. I still stick with the notion, macs cost to much to have in your house unless your doing something productive along the line of traditional creative arts, especially if it's your job.

About the viruses, I've had my computer since around mid May, and have yet to get a virus. I've had maybe 2 or 3 trojan horses, that Avast! deleted halfway through the download and that is it. Not to mention Avast! is free. But you are incorrect about "computers get viruses", it's more about what OS is on them. Linux doesn't get that many viruses at all, and it's ran on tons of PC's.

Just saying.

You're splitting hairs on the "computers get viruses" thing. You know what i'm talking about, don't play like you don't. Nobody writes viruses for Linux because no one uses it. It would be a waste of a hacker's time to write a virus for Linux. You've gotten 2 or 3 trojans in a space of a couple months? That's a lot. I've never had a virus, trojan, or anything else. Never had to worry about it at all.

Yeah, I'll concur that Macs are expensive. But once you boot it up, you know where that money went. It's like the difference between buying a cheap sports car and a Lamborghini IMO. The amount of software and the usability of it that comes with OSX is head and shoulders above Vista and this is someone who's used both. That, and I don't have to worry about things not working with the new OS. The compatibility issues of Vista are a black eye on Microsoft, who would rather just rush things out and let people figure it out on their own than actually put the time into Beta testing like Apple does.

You've got me on the gaming thing. Macs aren't really much for games, but with the market share being bigger, someday that might change. I play games on my Mac and they work great, so meh, it's all personal preference I guess.

Nobody writes viruses for Linux because no one uses it.

HA HA HA HA!

I guess that explains why there are so many viri for Windows.

Seriously if there was an alternative to PC with the convenience and affordability of PC I would be all over it. Maybe in 10 more years it will be apple in the mean time I will let you guys beta test it for me.

OH and keep paying for your service packs too! I want all the bugs worked out before I buy in.

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Out of all the years I've had my PC, it's never crashed on me.
I love my PC.

You say that a Mac is better for the arts, I have to completely disagree.
The PC has way better software selection for all that stuff.
I make games/music/videos on my PC and I have no problems.

If you say you'd rather have a Mac because of game software, that's like saying you'd rather get the GBA SP instead of DSL because the game selection.

And I think we're forgetting the real point. PSP has the best OS.

Out of all the years I've had my PC, it's never crashed on me.
I love my PC.

You say that a Mac is better for the arts, I have to completely disagree.
The PC has way better software selection for all that stuff.
I make games/music/videos on my PC and I have no problems.

If you say you'd rather have a Mac because of game software, that's like saying you'd rather get the GBA SP instead of DSL because the game selection.

And I think we're forgetting the real point. PSP has the best OS.

Lol I'm with you on the PSP having the best OS!

Yeah, Mac definitely IS best for the arts, but that doesn't mean you can use other stuff.

seriously? seriously? you guys act like macs dont crash. well they do. often. the user determines if a computer crashes.
and if your computer mac or otherwise crashes on a regular basis your machine is NOT well designed or NOT taken care of. and to say they are well designed is bull. i can use my laptop well over 10 hours a day and not have a single issue. macs freeze up. they have no air flow and they get hot. windows doesnt run "well" on a mac either. my friend shinkoyo has to restart if she leaves the macbook alone till it sleeps.

oh and if my laptop ever had an issue of ANY kind. i could easily replace the part with the problem. and i wouldnt have to pay out the A$$ either.

seriously? seriously? you guys act like macs dont crash. well they do. often. the user determines if a computer crashes.
and if your computer mac or otherwise crashes on a regular basis your machine is NOT well designed or NOT taken care of. and to say they are well designed is bull. i can use my laptop well over 10 hours a day and not have a single issue. macs freeze up. they have no air flow and they get hot. windows doesnt run "well" on a mac either. my friend shinkoyo has to restart if she leaves the macbook alone till it sleeps.

oh and if my laptop ever had an issue of ANY kind. i could easily replace the part with the problem. and i wouldnt have to pay out the A$$ either.

None of the Macs I've owned have ever crashed. Seriously. Programs crash once in awhile but I never have to restart the OS because of it. Windows runs quite well on a Mac. You've obviously never tried it out. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a buggy OS that is only popular because Microsoft had the foresight to get it on every computer known to man. You've grown up with it, it's probably the only OS you have much experience with, so naturally, you think it's the best. If you're using it for games, sure, I'll give that to you. There are hardly any games for Mac, but that's why I have a PSP or a console.

The Macs ARE well designed, but again, I doubt you've tried one because if you had, you'd probably agree with me. The hardware, OSX, etc WORK! That's why Macs are better IMO, because they work and you don't have to hire a computer whisperer to figure out what the hell the problem is. The functionality is off the chain and that's why people are flocking to them. If something gets messed up, you can usually correct it by restarting and if not, it's usually not too hard to figure out, unlike Windows, where the system seems to have a life of its own.

Also, if hardware burns out on a Mac, you CAN swap it out. I had the hard drive on my old G4 laptop die last year and I got a new one, put it in and gave it to my brother to use when I got my Mac Book Pro.

Again, you really ought to try OSX out because it's pretty obvious that your post is full of a bunch of prejudice regarding Macs than actual information.

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When you buy a Mac, you're basically buying a metaphoric jailcell.
You can't upgrade the parts inside.
Oh, wow, you updated your Harddrive.
Guess what. I can update a hard drive on my MP3 player.
If a good game ever happens to come out for Mac, you'd have to buy a whole new machine.
That's why they come out with new laptops all the time.

And stop telling people that they haven't tried one because we wouldn't know all the endless problems unless we used one.
I was forced to use Macs all the time in school when that's the only computers we had.

Let's make a list of all the stuff you, DoctaMario, said you like about Macs:
# They are well designed.

Well, I'll have to give that one to you, the case of the Macs are pretty to look at.
But for the rest of us who actually use their compter, we (98.7% of all computer users) will stick with PC.

HA no ive never OWNED a mac no. because its a stupid buy. they cost 4 of my freaking paychecks. why the heck are they so expensive?

they arent even cheap on EBAY?! WTF? upwards of 1500? seriously? i got my laptop (which by the way RUNS OSX docta. and yes i am familiar with the OS) for 500! it does everything the mac does PLUS plays games. there isnt anything a mac can do that a pc cant for a FRACTION of the price.

and if macs work SOOO well why does this site exist? http://www.macfixitforums.com
not only that i talk to people who own macs. i work at radiocrack now and go to college where alot of people with laptops have macs.

so yea i may not know macs first hand but i know OSX and deal with macs all day.