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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:58 am

Jar3tt wrote:Yeah weed really isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I have done research, and i do believe the us could be way more productive if pot was legalized. Meth on the other hand...Your a complete dumbass if you do that, sorry for cussing, but its necessary.

How could weed be more productive when using it you cant even move about?
Also using all DRUGS is a dumb, you can't try to say 1 drug is worse then another, yea maybe there are sideafects you don't know about. Ofcourse the visual side affects are bad but i still don't want to waste 1 outof my few billion brain cells, as you can't get them back.
Doing any drug imo is dumb.
You can't say another drug is as worse as another just because of different side affects.
H-Bomb is different from the atomic in 1 way, still mean's the atomic bomb is bad.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:39 am

Alex Finlay wrote:
Jar3tt wrote:Yeah weed really isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I have done research, and i do believe the us could be way more productive if pot was legalized. Meth on the other hand...Your a complete dumbass if you do that, sorry for cussing, but its necessary.

How could weed be more productive when using it you cant even move about?
Also using all DRUGS is a dumb, you can't try to say 1 drug is worse then another, yea maybe there are side affects you don't know about. Of course the visual side affects are bad but i still don't want to waste 1 out of my few billion brain cells, as you can't get them back.
Doing any drug imo is dumb.
You can't say another drug is as worse as another just because of different side affects.
H-Bomb is different from the atomic in 1 way, still mean's the atomic bomb is bad.


Actually I'm fairly certain Crack is much worse than weed. It isn't all bad as you are told, still it isn't good but don't over exaggerate it.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:13 pm

oh wtf people. weed is no worse then alchohol.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:32 pm

^True, people think weed is like an abomination of the Devil when alcohol can be and is much worse to society when overused.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:45 pm

Drugs kill, ruin lives.

End of story, no complications, no arguments.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:53 pm

Alex Finlay wrote:1. How could weed be more productive when using it you cant even move about?

2. You can't say another drug is as worse as another just because of different side affects. H-Bomb is different from the atomic in 1 way, still mean's the atomic bomb is bad.

3. Of course the visual side affects are bad but i still don't want to waste 1 out of my few billion brain cells, as you can't get them back.

4. Doing any drug imo is dumb.


Alex, I've broken your post up a bit in order to respond to the different points you make. I tend to know more than my fair share about controlled substances so here we go.

1. It's pretty clear to tell that you haven't smoked weed and use commercials as your reference. Weed does not make you incapacitated to the point that you cannot move. It can make you drowsy, sure, but it's a "natural" drowsiness and not a "manufactured" drowsiness, and what I mean by that is that it's not like taking cough pills to become tired or drinking alcohol and becoming tired. I've even personally known 4 track athletes from when I was in High School that would smoke together before a meet so that they wouldn't feel aches in their joints as they were running, so "not being able to move" is clearly not a side-effect, although for some people, they choose not to because smoking weed makes you feel comfortable.

2. Comparing weapons of mass destruction to small-time recreational drugs like marijuana is highly unfair to do. The only similarity you can say is that both are chemically different when compared to their counterparts. If you are saying that it's unfair to say drugs are better or worse from another because of their side effects then you are implying that drinking too much cough syrup is the same thing as using meth or ketamine or something else, which is just not true. Of course you can judge drugs as being "better" or "worse" from another due to their side-effects. That's why drugs are called different things... that's what the United States government lists them as "schedule I" or "schedule II" drugs and so on under the "Controlled Substances Act" of 1970. And if you were to look up marijuana specifically, you'd see it rated in schedule I, or "the most dangerous" ones, even though it isn't. Governmental studies and government-funded research will claim that marijuana is extremely dangerous even though it isn't - which is proven by much more abundant independent research. The reason marijuana is schedule I is because it is a "gateway drug", meaning, most people who try out marijuana find out that it benefits them and they enjoy using it, so they think they would enjoy other drugs and try them out. Because of its "gateway drug" appeal, marijuana is "dangerous" in that sense, because it can potentially lead people to try more powerful and dangerous controlled substances, like meth and what-not.

3. You only have one life to live. I always say "I'll try anything twice". I may be more adventurous than others, and I'm not encouraging you or anyone else to do drugs, but when all is said and done, you'll end up as an old man who has lost his mind anyways. If you are responsible with drug use, the paths end up in the same place. And I know it seems odd to say it's possible to "be responsible while doing drugs", but you can - it's entirely possible. Just like people say "be responsible" when drinking. Some people think that's impossible but any alcoholic can tell you the difference from responsible and irresponsible in that regard.

4. Doing any drug is dumb. So is premarital sex. So is aligning yourself with a stereotype. So is lying, skipping school, drinking energy drinks and soda, and so is playing with chickens and dressing up in Dorothy costumes... but some people call that "living their life" and both people, even though their opinions are entirely different, are both entirely correct.

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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:21 pm

I live in a very urban area. weed is EVERYWHERE down here. the only negative affect i've seen and personally as a "user" is the fact you can be put in prison for a very miniscule amount. It needs to be regulated like alcohol and cigarettes. anyone put in jail for having a pocket full of marijuana is just taking up valuable resources. People selling on the streets are doing it because weed is not easy to find and you cant buy it in stores. you start selling marijuana in liquor stores then you eliminate a large chunk of drug dealers. this means less violence in the streets over territory and letting the police focus on the "more" dangerous drugs available.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:33 pm

Alex Finlay wrote:
Jar3tt wrote:Yeah weed really isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I have done research, and i do believe the us could be way more productive if pot was legalized. Meth on the other hand...Your a complete dumbass if you do that, sorry for cussing, but its necessary.

How could weed be more productive when using it you cant even move about?
Also using all DRUGS is a dumb, you can't try to say 1 drug is worse then another, yea maybe there are sideafects you don't know about. Ofcourse the visual side affects are bad but i still don't want to waste 1 outof my few billion brain cells, as you can't get them back.
Doing any drug imo is dumb.
You can't say another drug is as worse as another just because of different side affects.
H-Bomb is different from the atomic in 1 way, still mean's the atomic bomb is bad.


When i said our government could be way more productive if pot was legalized i didn't just mean for people to smoke. You have no idea how useful the actual marijuana plant is in everyday lifestyles. I cant remember this list i found, but there was a list of like over 200 different things the cannabis plant can be used for in our every day life. You can make clothes out of the plant, like cotton, and hell i even have hemp chapstick. Its really not so bad.

EDIT: and DPM i agree with everything you said.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:29 pm

Yumiko wrote:Drugs kill, ruin lives.

End of story, no complications, no arguments.


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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:50 pm

light_alistor wrote:It needs to be regulated like alcohol and cigarettes.

The problem here being marijuana is VERY easy to produce, and alcohol and tobacco are not. Yes you can brew beer, but producing hard alcohol is a difficult/long/expensive process. Tobacco takes land and time. And growing 1 crop pretty much depletes the soil of minerals and such. Not so easy for a homegrower.

Marijuana on the other hand needs no soil. It needs no natural sunlight! All you need is water, florescent lighting, and special fertilizer if you get down to the basics. And it grows quickly.

This is why the government can't regulate it, hence they won't legalize it.
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Post Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:56 pm

Jar3tt wrote:When i said our government could be way more productive if pot was legalized i didn't just mean for people to smoke. You have no idea how useful the actual marijuana plant is in everyday lifestyles. I cant remember this list i found, but there was a list of like over 200 different things the cannabis plant can be used for in our every day life. You can make clothes out of the plant, like cotton, and hell i even have hemp chapstick. Its really not so bad.

If Cannabis was used for Ethanol production instead of corn or switchgrass we would spend less at the pump.
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Post Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:36 pm

que13x wrote:If Cannabis was used for Ethanol production instead of corn or switchgrass we would spend less at the pump.


And yet another good use for cannabis 8)
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Post Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:38 am

DPM = my hero :D
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Post Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:57 am

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4. Doing any drug is dumb. So is premarital sex.

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Post Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:15 am

DarkPacMan77 wrote:4. Doing any drug is dumb. So is premarital sex. So is aligning yourself with a stereotype. So is lying, skipping school, drinking energy drinks and soda, and so is playing with chickens

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I think CRAIT missed that part. (joking) ;):P
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