9/11 - Let's talk about it.

[DarkPacMan77]

What did we gain by lying? (Assuming we did about the aituation)

What did the U.S gain by lying saying terrorists did it?

Oil from middle eastern countries?

The CIA orchestrated the 9/11 attacks to allow Private Military Corporations (PMC's) to make money from war profiteering, but more importantly, to overthrow political leaders that have access to resources that we want - like oil. 9/11 was a catalyst for an attack against the United States itself, by creating a state of panic and fear which allows the proper conditions for unconstitutional legislation to be passed in Congress like the Patriot Act, just to name one such example. The state of panic was created so that people would WILLINGLY allow this to happen - thus making the stripping of freedoms easy and the amount of power to be shifted to more Federal control.

-DarkPacMan77-

BKFRAIDERS PWNT AS ALWAYS

BTW... f**k THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT

FIGHT THE POWER

[crait]

What did we gain by lying? (Assuming we did about the aituation)

What did the U.S gain by lying saying terrorists did it?

Oil from middle eastern countries?

The CIA orchestrated the 9/11 attacks to allow Private Military Corporations (PMC's) to make money from war profiteering, but more importantly, to overthrow political leaders that have access to resources that we want - like oil. 9/11 was a catalyst for an attack against the United States itself, by creating a state of panic and fear which allows the proper conditions for unconstitutional legislation to be passed in Congress like the Patriot Act, just to name one such example. The state of panic was created so that people would WILLINGLY allow this to happen - thus making the stripping of freedoms easy and the amount of power to be shifted to more Federal control.

-DarkPacMan77-

This, and the lease holder of the twin towers that got it 6 weeks before 9/11 had changed his insurance policy to specifically insure him from terroristic actions. He made 70 billion dollars (70,000,000,000 USD) when he took the insurance company to court claiming that a double highjacking constituted him the right for two different claims.
He won.

Also, a lot of the stock holders for the airline companies sold their stock the day before 9/11 because they knew that once the attacks take place, then the stocks would fall dramatically. Also note that for four days after the attack, no one could sale stocks because the stock market froze while the rest of the country panicked. (Spelling errror?)

Also, whenever building 7 was destroyed at 5:20, nearly all the evidence against the people involved in the multi-billion dollar Enron scandal was destroyed, too. No one barely got blamed or scentanced to jailtime. Coincidence?
Building 7 also housed many, many bills that the U.S. government had yet paid. We don't have to pay them anymore because there's no more bills.

[DarkPacMan77]

Yes, the owner of the lease made 70 billion, and specifically making sure he had "terrorism insurance" seems highly preemptive of him to do, but he's just a tool in the whole situation. 70 billion is nothing compared to the amount of power the Federal government raped from the average American citizen since 9/11.

If I call crait a terrorist, the police can tap his phones, break into his house, haul him away to a secret prison... for nothing.

-DarkPacMan77-

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If I call crait a terrorist, the police can tap his phones, break into his house, haul him away to a secret prison... for nothing.

It's the witch trials all over again.

[BKFraiders7]

BKFRAIDERS PWNT AS ALWAYS

BTW... f**k THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT

FIGHT THE POWER

Now was this called for Sega? Haha. Yea, i lost.

[DarkPacMan77]

BKFRAIDERS PWNT AS ALWAYS

BTW... f**k THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT

FIGHT THE POWER

Now was this called for Sega? Haha. Yea, i lost.

Well if you admit to losing the little debate, then "why" do you admit losing? Or better yet, "why" do you believe what you believe without having any evidence to support your claim other than the television and mainstream media that TOLD you what to believe?

-DarkPacMan77-

[BKFraiders7]

What you did point out makes sense as well and I am not 100% on what i believe now. As you said, those planes werent close to capacity at all. Deff not 75% like reported.

[JustinWoodypond]

What did we gain by lying? (Assuming we did about the aituation)

What did the U.S gain by lying saying terrorists did it?

Oil from middle eastern countries?

The CIA orchestrated the 9/11 attacks to allow Private Military Corporations (PMC's) to make money from war profiteering, but more importantly, to overthrow political leaders that have access to resources that we want - like oil. 9/11 was a catalyst for an attack against the United States itself, by creating a state of panic and fear which allows the proper conditions for unconstitutional legislation to be passed in Congress like the Patriot Act, just to name one such example. The state of panic was created so that people would WILLINGLY allow this to happen - thus making the stripping of freedoms easy and the amount of power to be shifted to more Federal control.

-DarkPacMan77-

Have you read Shock Doctrine? If not, you should, it sounds right up you're alley. It's by Naomi Klein if you're interested.

I guess this came out on the 3rd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaCivvjjYSc
5:47 min

At 1:23 Beck mentions flight 77. On that day any footage of whatever hit the Pentagon was immediately confiscated and classified. Why hide the evidence, why the secrecy? Only one very grainy video of what hit the Pentagon has ever been released. It doesn't clearly show flight 77 or any object the size of a passenger liner. Video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIpmCNSQ6-A

At 2:50 Glenn questions whether or not flight 93 was shot down, maybe it was maybe it wasn't, I wasn't there.
All I want to know is... does this look doctored to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNuosBnlw5s&feature=PlayList&p=BFD716DBABCB20DC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=43
30 seconds

Glen also brings up Van Jones in reference to this petition:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633
Beck mentions a few actors and comedians and dismisses a 5 term senator for signing the petition. Beck also ignores the Ph.Ds on it. I find #38 interesting ( http://www.ecora.com/ecora/company/bio/MortonEGoulder.asp and http://web.mit.edu/physics/alumniandfriends/profiles/goulder.html ). If our doctors don't know what they are talking about then who does?

At 4:06 Glenn makes it seem like you have to be a complete nut to think the towers were intentionally demolished with explosives. That info comes from here: http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM This is a peer reviewed scientific journal, not a conspiracy site. Ph.D level scientists put this paper together after much research, verification and debate.

I agree with Beck that there is a LOT of garbage out there on exactly what happened that day. Unfortunately few people ever follow up on what is reported on the daily news.

30 million dollars was spent investigating whether or not Bill Clinton lied about Monica Lewinsky. No one died.
15 million dollars was spent investigating 9/11. 3000+ people died.
After the JFK assassination on November 22, 1963. The Warren commission convened a week later on November 29, 1963
The 9/11 commission was opened on November 27 2002. More than a year after the actual event occurred and after much resistance from the White House. This resistance (and apparent lack of interest) helps fuel the notion that "high level government officials" were in some way involved.

I don't know if you have seen Fahrenheit 911, I heard a lot of bad things about that film and agreed with the critiques, until I watched it myself. Have you seen it?

George W. Bush and Dick Cheney refused to testify to the 9/11 commission under oath; so did Bill Clinton and Al Gore. The presidential testimony was given in private and no records were made of anything that was said. Why?

President Bush and Vice President Cheney insisted on testifying together, while Clinton and Gore met with the panel separately. This in my opinion proves George W Bush was clueless about events leading up to 9/11 and needed Cheney to help shore up and collaborate anything that was said.

Maybe this is made up: http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/ex-fbi-agent-why-i-support-a-new-911-investigation/
This too: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/11/17/122900.shtml

Bin Laden's wanted poster: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
Hmmm, no mention of 9/11 here. I guess FBI is too busy whistle-blowing to update their own poster.
Don't forget about this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml

Why do a lot of people think Bush was more involved than it appears?

Well, 15 of 19 Hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. W did fly Bin Laden's family out of the U.S. (no questions asked) when no one else was allowed to fly even if you had kidneys or other vital organs to receive or deliver.
Also the Saudis did help the Bush family earn a lot of money in the oil business. It is common to see W and his father holding hands with Saudi Royalty.

Lastly here is a quick summary of John P O'neil ex-FBI agent killed in the world trade center attack. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/ He is on wikipedia here: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._O%27Neill
[/url] What does this have to do with Bush? Well After a frustrated O'neil left the FBI he was shortly offered a high paying job at the WTC.

Security at the WTC complex was covered by Securacom.
Marvin P. Bush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_P._Bush, was on the board of directors of Securacom from 1993 to June 2000. If that peer reviewed scientific journal is correct and there was Nano-Thermite residue in the dust of the WTC aftermath, then whomever was responsible for 9/11 would have had to have access to the internal structure of WTC buildings 1, 2 & 7.

I would like to have Beck explain away everything I have shown you. I would like him to tell me that none of this matters and have him tell me why.

9/11 is important but not for the reasons most people think. Unfortunately most people have forgotten about it or just don't care anymore. I will admit that nothing likely will ever be done about it at this point. Many mainstream sites have taken down much of the supporting evidence for the events of that day such as the intelligence links to the Hijackers, the bomb sniffing doggs being removed at the WTC just before 9/11 and the BBC reporting that building 7 fell with it still standing int the background. There is more, a lot more but this post is long enough for now. I will close with this...

Future generations will know the truth but only after those responsible have long died of natural causes.

Thanks for reading.

[DarkPacMan77]

There's tons more to add, and you and I both will. It would be great to accumulate all of this content into one post, with pictures and videos and otherwise meaningful evidence.

-DarkPacMan77-

put your energy into making the site fully Phb33 or what ever it is lol.
Then we will get it done in no time XD.
Thanks, Alex.

*Alex- That last part was uncalled for and shows your age in the foum. Please refrain from that childish act*-BKF
Send me what i said, I have a bad memory.

There's tons more to add, and you and I both will. It would be great to accumulate all of this content into one post, with pictures and videos and otherwise meaningful evidence.

Who would give a sh*t enough to care and read it? Look at the first response already. This is why the future will be a mental prison for the people of the future.

The worse part is that they won't even realize it.