Official Religion Debate Thread

Well I'm guessing that the text in the Old Testament don't mean as much as the New Testament, it was improved in the New. I mean if God didn't like what Jesus was teaching then I'm sure he would have done something about it. And in those versus, 'word' can be used very loosely so its possible that just his 'promise' or the overall outlook of what is required to go to Heaven is secure and it is steadfast. I guess it just depends on how you interpret it.

one of my Science teachers would always say "the bible was written for people of a much earlier time to understand, making certain things seem bizzarre to us today, however we have the knowledge to now interpret that", which makes sense to me but im still not sure...

Well I'm guessing that the text in the Old Testament don't mean as much as the New Testament

New Testament proof:

Hebrews 8:10 This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Almost word for word from the old testament: Jeremiah 31:33: "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.

James 2:8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture,(Law of Moses) "Love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing right. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11For he who said, "Do not commit adultery,"also said, "Do not murder."If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.

Galatians 3:10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."
You think this might be a reference to Deuteronomy chapter 27, The Law of Moses?

Here is a good one:

Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

I guess this is true because:

Galatians 2:16 know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. This passage reads like a direct contradiction to the above.

Galatians 6:2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. Clearly Jesus made up his own laws and was eventually crucified with 2 other law breakers as witnesses I suppose.

However

Words of Jesus... Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

But how can the law of god be fulfilled if Jesus changed it?

I will stop in the interest of space but in closing; the scriptures are clear but you are right in what you said, most choose their own interpretation.

There is certainly a good bit of proof that The Original Scriptures of the bible have been well, almost perfectly preserved over the years.

the bible has been edited and translated so many times that it might have been completely diff b4..... thats y i dont take it literally... at all.... beides the roman murked it up so much u would be an idiot to even try to take it literally.... i just think about as a series of stories that tell u basic rulz to live by..... tho i do sin quite alot

the bible has been edited and translated so many times that it might have been completely diff b4..... thats y i dont take it literally... at all.... beides the roman murked it up so much u would be an idiot to even try to take it literally.... i just think about as a series of stories that tell u basic rulz to live by..... tho i do sin quite alot

than why do you even follow the bible when you know that?

the bible has been edited and translated so many times that it might have been completely diff b4..... thats y i dont take it literally... at all.... beides the roman murked it up so much u would be an idiot to even try to take it literally.... i just think about as a series of stories that tell u basic rulz to live by..... tho i do sin quite alot

than why do you even follow the bible when you know that?

because it is the safest religon......

the bible has been edited and translated so many times that it might have been completely diff b4..... thats y i dont take it literally... at all.... beides the roman murked it up so much u would be an idiot to even try to take it literally.... i just think about as a series of stories that tell u basic rulz to live by..... tho i do sin quite alot

than why do you even follow the bible when you know that?

because it is the safest religon......

what do you mean?

It doesn't advocated (man I have used that word a lot today) for you to kill anybody, or have prejudice. It just supports for you to follow the 10 commandments and be a good person and try not to sin. You don't have to be a religious freak to follow the Bible, you can simply be a good person instead.

It doesn't advocated (man I have used that word a lot today) for you to kill anybody, or have prejudice. It just supports for you to follow the 10 commandments and be a good person and try not to sin. You don't have to be a religious freak to follow the Bible, you can simply be a good person instead.

but problem is, most christians say "well you can't take bible literally its been changed to much"
knowing the fact its been changed so much, why do you even follow it?

It doesn't advocated (man I have used that word a lot today) for you to kill anybody, or have prejudice. It just supports for you to follow the 10 commandments and be a good person and try not to sin. You don't have to be a religious freak to follow the Bible, you can simply be a good person instead.

but problem is, most christians say "well you can't take bible literally its been changed to much"
knowing the fact its been changed so much, why do you even follow it?

No they don't Farq.

DracoDraco was the first person to say that, and most likely thats the first time you've heard it.

In any case, you can't judge many by a few.

Well all of Revelations and Matthew reflects to modern day times. And it also is nice to be a good person, it is sort of like Karma, except hell is the punishment. I follow it because I believe in it, and the idea that it has been changed so much is a theory, you don't know what has been changed. Perhaps stuff was added, like Roman law.

It doesn't advocate for you to kill anybody, or have prejudice.

Shall I find old or new testament scriptures to dispute what you said?

Your choice.

It doesn't advocate for you to kill anybody, or have prejudice.

Shall I find old or new testament scriptures to dispute what you said?

Your choice.

yah i can find like a million of them as well, very easy

Do so then Farq, where in the New Testament does it say for Christians, followers of Christ to kill someone?
And nothing cheesy.
@Que- It doesn't not advocate killing other people.