what do you think about god and religion?

im not insulting him im just saying he is really mean....

im saying a real god would love you no matter what. He wouldnt send you to hell, he wouldnt send you to heaven, he would treat all people the same way. A real god loves his people, he doesnt tell them how to live their lives, he doesnt tell them whats right and whats wrong, he would let them do what they want.
There is no such thing as evil and good, its all opinions, if you think something is evil someone else might think its good. So a real god wouldnt send you to hell for doing something you think was the right thing to do.

Thats what im saying, the gods expressed in orginized religions are not real gods, they are just fake. A real god would never treat someone better then someone else.

And i dont mean to insult you guys so sorry if i do, i just dont find it insulting im sorry its not my fault. Im NOT trying to insult anyone, and im sorry if i am

im not insulting him im just saying he is really mean....

im saying a real god would love you no matter what. He wouldnt send you to hell, he wouldnt send you to heaven, he would treat all people the same way. A real god loves his people, he doesnt tell them how to live their lives, he doesnt tell them whats right and whats wrong, he would let them do what they want.
There is no such thing as evil and good, its all opinions, if you think something is evil someone else might think its good. So a real god wouldnt send you to hell for doing something you think was the right thing to do.

Thats what im saying, the gods expressed in orginized religions are not real gods, they are just fake. A real god would never treat someone better then someone else.

And i dont mean to insult you guys so sorry if i do, i just dont find it insulting im sorry its not my fault. Im NOT trying to insult anyone, and im sorry if i am

well.. right or wrong? the 10 commandments? And God is loving, but he is also just. If you ask for forgiveness and mean it, then you will be forgiven. But if you refuse to believe in him and deny his word then why should you go to heaven. Ok check this out:

There is a Christan and a Non-Christian, they both do something bad.

The Christian, since he is a Christian, asks for forgiveness and he means it, so he is forgiven.

The Non-Christian doesn't believe in God so he goes on in his day and he does it again.

The sins that the non-Christian committed where not washed away, so therefore he cannot go to heaven. In saying this, no person is perfect, and EVERYONE has done bad things in there life, maybe small things but the true Christian asks for forgiveness and it is forgotten, since the Non-Christian doesn't believe, those sins stick with him so he can't go to heaven.

Simple as that.

You say there is no such thing as evil or good? So you think Murdering could possibly be ok? or stealing? Rape?

think of it this way. humans are made rational. we are made to question. the point im seeing here is that blind faith will grant you eternal happiness. thats just not true. if we had blind faith in everything then truly liars would rule the world.

i can believe that the bible was made to be a set of principles to live by, made by people and thought up not by god but by people. the bible is full of good ideas made for people to get along. the book in all of history been a source of powerful inspiration. however it has also been a powerful weapon, throughout time people have used the bible to persecute others not like them. thalt shall not suffer a witch. a witch? seriously? this means that now witches must exist first of all. that there are or WERE people on earth who played with the devils magic and were SUCCESSFUL. can i believe that? not likely. what i CAN believe is that people saw another religion, one of pagan values and decided that it should be eradicated in the name of god.

people always ask if god exists, when the real question should be does the devil exist?

But it's not "Blind Faith" I have repeatedly posted the signs of the end times.. Do you have a bible? If so check out Matthew 24. That chapter has like 10 signs including false prophets, famines, incurable diseases, Increase in wars, earthquakes, lawlessness (people doing whatever they want, no authority), and worldwide persecution of the believers, the 'elect' as the Bible states.

It also talks about a One World Government will come, it also talks about the temple in Jerusalem being predicted to be destroyed and it was, in 70 AD by the Romans. And it talks that every nation shall wage war against Israel, and that is close to happening. The only nations that stand by Israel now are us and maybe some African nation. Thats it! Can't you see this stuff which was all prophecized in the Bible is true . Is that not enough proof?

There is a devil, without the devil there would be no temptation, without temptation there would be no evil, without evil there would be no temptation to do evil. You may argue there is free will and people can do whatever that want, even evil, but without temptation, people don't have the desire to do evil, or go against God.

EDIT: I meant to add that Jesus prophecized that the temple would be destroyed, and it was, and it also speaks that before His return, it must be rebuilt. And the only reason it hasn't been rebuilt is because Israel isn't in control of the sacred "Temple mount" where the previous temple was destroyed. It is controlled by the Muslims or something. Thus, you know how that feud is down there, Israel is surrounded by several enemies and there is constant fighting between them over the different patches of land such as the Gaza Strip and a couple of other areas. So in order for Israel to rebuild the temple, they must take the "Temple Mount" over again, and I forget exactly all what is said to happen.

Wow I do not even know where to begin.

I guess I will start with the belief that the video is an over simplistic view of world history in general. I can not completely disagree with everything presented but I also can not whole heartedly agree.

1. 911 occurred because Saudi Arabia chose America instead of Osama and his army to liberate Kuwait. Why was America chosen by the Saudis? Well because when it was discovered that there was oil over there America made a treaty, Saudi Oil in exchange for protection. Osama felt that it should have been Arabs and no one else that should have liberated Kuwait. In this case 9/11 was a pride issue and the 3rd and only successful attempt at toppling the towers. This is the simple version. Research the topic on your own; there are no other conclusions.

2. Most wars are fought for gain such as when a nation lacks resources, not because of the separation of people or their religion. Seriously, the war in Iraq has nothing to do with the freedom of middle eastern inhabitants.(Someone start a thread if you are interested and I will go off on that topic too.), The Crusades that were depicted in the video were spearheaded by the Knights Templar whom gained much wealth by pillaging the middle east in the name of god. It is my belief that this organization found the lost treasures of King Solomons Temple in Jerusalem and became so disgustingly wealthy that it ultimately established the modern banking system.

3. It is true that man creates or rather has created religion. This I believe was done initially mainly to explain the things that mankind did not immediately understand. Later Religion was used as a method of control and after that as a way to gain wealth. However, I believe that our existence was not by chance, conversely I also believe that no active religion today is a true faith. In my opinion all religions have problems and are imperfect in some way, obvious manifests of an imperfect mortal mind. However for me to say that there is no god would be presumptuous and possibly blasphemous. No one can either prove nor disprove the existence of god anymore than anyone can prove or disprove the existence of Zeus. That is why it is called faith.

4. Palestinians and Jews do not get along because of America. After WWII instead of annexing parts of Germany for use by Holocaust survivors a treaty was ratified and the state of Israel was born. Unfortunately the boundaries stated in the bible (which was used as a reference for the treaty) were occupied by Palestinians. How would you feel if you got kicked out of your house and say Katrina survivors(for example) were allowed to move in? Is it truly a wonder why America is so despised?

I am tired. Long post. Done ranting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dx5GEV-tyw
lmao i love this video.

And yet again adventwolf, if you think what your doing is right thing to do, then how can god tell you its not the right thing to do? I'm not saying murdering, stealing, or rape is good. But someone goes of and murders the person who killed his mom and dad, he thinks he did the right thing, HE CANT BE PUNISHED FOR IT!! someone goes of and steals from a person who stole from him, how does he get punished when he thinks he did the right thing? Someone goes and rapes the person that raped them, he thinks he did the right thing, why does he get punished for doing what he thinks is the right think?

I dont understand that.

The Bible speaks of forgiveness, I can understand stealing back what what stolen for you, And I know people whose friends have been murdered and they where so frustrated and wanted to kill the person that killed their friend, but that doesn't make it any better. If you do get a chance to catch them, then you can get them arrested and since they committed murder, they would be kept away for a long time. Justice is good, but you don't wanna go about it the wrong way.

temptation? is that what you call curiosity? originality? once calling the earth round was heresy. proclaiming earth wasnt the center of the universe a hell worthy trespass. what makes sex before marriage a sin? i dont understand. why cant we be free to truly explore? why must we answer to anyone? why is evolution wrong? it has more supporting it then the bible. if thinking for yourself and not following the bibles SET principles and following your own is a sin, then hell must be full of righteous people.

globalization is NOT a sign of the apocalypse. and if i said any prediction right now chances are it would occur. or atleast an INTERPRETATION would occur. which is all your confirmation that the end is near really is. your own interpretation.

farquezy vengeance and justice are two different things. an eye for an eye doesnt get you anything but half blind people. reclaim your honor by rising above the person who wronged you. just be sure they never do it to anyone else.

temptation? is that what you call curiosity? originality? once calling the earth round was heresy. proclaiming earth wasnt the center of the universe a hell worthy trespass. what makes sex before marriage a sin? i dont understand. why cant we be free to truly explore? why must we answer to anyone? why is evolution wrong? it has more supporting it then the bible. if thinking for yourself and not following the bibles SET principles and following your own is a sin, then hell must be full of righteous people.

globalization is NOT a sign of the apocalypse. and if i said any prediction right now chances are it would occur. or atleast an INTERPRETATION would occur. which is all your confirmation that the end is near really is. your own interpretation.

so true, thats what i've been trying to say this whole time man...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq5TWTTPHF8
This video is a great confission from a former christian who is now a athiest. Watch his other videos, his knowledge is more then anyones i have ever seen, how smart this person is.

But still adventwolf, if haven't answered me, If that person thinks what he did is the right thing to do, why is it evil and he should be punished for it?

So you are saying I think curiosity is temptation? No, because that would mean I am impying men are curios to kill, men are curious to see what happens if they rape someone. That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying there exists temptation that causes man to do these things.

I don't have any standing on sex before marriage.

Well I don't study evolution, but it states we where like [Being 'A'] -> [Being 'B'] -> [Being 'C'] -> [Ape] -> [Human] -> ??
We've been humans for thousands of years, granted there is noted hair loss..

True Christians follow the Bible, they are not 'self righteous' people. I guess the people you speak of in hell must have not asked for forgiveness for their sins.

And it is not my interpretation, it is exactly what the Bible states! And how would you know that back in BC or early AD that global warming would occur? I mean still people don't believe it. How would you know that There would once be a One World Government? How would you know that?


@Farquezy: Say the 2 guys hijacked cars, they stole from a hard working citizen. So the non christian thinks it is ok, as you say, it is opinion of what is "right or wrong". So you think stealing is ok if you think it is ok?

he is punished because his sins weren't forgiven, thats what I have been saying.

let me see if i can. if someone murders your family because your mom wouldnt give him her money, and in his own twisted mind thinks its right. should he not be punished? he should. because that individual is UNSTABLE mentally ill. that person must be taught the error of his ways. however burning eternally in hell fire doesnt teach him that its wrong. doesnt "cure" the sick mind only destroys it

those are really easy to predict.
i predict that one day humans will meet aliens, i bet they already have, but those are just COMMON SENSE!!
Now if i predicted that we will meet aliens form the place quitalixa and they speak qugbgb and they are green wiht big eyes and no nose and went into detail, then thats something. but if i just predict stuff without going into detail then i bet everything i predict will come true, even if it comes true thousands of years from now

People weren't all that smart about the future back in the BC's when the Bible was written, as it is common knowledge now. You can't expect a regular simple minded peasant market trader to predict there would one day be a one world government and worldwide persecution of believers.

people have been saying for hundreds of years that the end is near. israel is getting flak from other countries because they are CONSTANTLY at war. they cant come to terms. why? because religion.

thats not necessarily true. the world seemed alot smaller back then. and rome sought to create ONE government and the people who wrote the bible saw rome as evil correct me if im wrong? romans cucified jesus.

Well yes, the romans crucified Jesus, but it was because of the influence of the Phrases that dis-liked Jesus.
I'm not sure about the Rome one government thing, I have heard about it but i'm not sure where it says that, do you happen to know?
It is majority the fact of religion why Israel is in conflict with its neighbors, that and the ownage of land.

Yeah.. It is mainly religion when it comes to some things, if it doesn't then why is there so much religious persecution .