Science Vs. Religon

I want you honest opinion on who is right, evolutionist or christians. I am a christian so here is my article i produced enjoy, and re submit your opinion on the topic:


Evolution:The True Story

Ok, Evolution-development: a process in which something passes by degrees to a different stage (especially a more advanced or mature stage); "the development of ...
(biology) the sequence of events involved in the evolutionary development of a species or taxonomic group of organisms . Im, not hear to support this false word, this word is wrong is so many ways, and im going to tell you, and show you why its all wrong in every way and type.


I am clear that Charles Darwin in 1850's discoverd that there is change in everything, adaption, on his trip to the gallapaglos islands, he discoreved that the animals there looked diffrent than the one back at his homeland.

One reason why this statement can be proven wrong is that just because a animal looks diffrent does not mean it is the same animal, could god not have created a animal, and then creat a animal with a diffrent apperance? With this whole adaption theory, the truth is that its wrong, evolution is all wrong, look i change is apperance all the time, i grow, i devolp, I change mentally, but have a evolved? If evolution does exist tell me one thing? If the animals that Darwin saw, had really adapted to there new enviroment, then why havent us humans adapted? If you will agree with me here our enviroment has changed in the past 1,000 years, has it not? There have been cancer's, pollution that effects our lungs and bodies, then why havent we adapted?

I am aware than some scientist took low level living rabbits up to a mountinous area, and the rabits, adapted, I am aware that rabbits have a much faster birth rate than us, but do we not have a much greater population? If there is suck thing as adaption, would we not have adapted to all these cancers? would our lungs have not adapted to prevent lung cancer form all the harmful chemicals in the air? Well if adaption does exist and it takes rabbits about a sum of 100 years to adapt, why have us humans not adapted in 1,000 years? Sounds pretty redicoulus to me.

You athesiast out there, talk about have we ever seen god, talk to god, met god, you say that why hasnt god came in the time we live in, well I talk to god every night, its called a prayer, and sometimes its not about proof, its about believing, its about faith, scientist have no faith, they relay on books and computers, because the truth is that dont know anything, they have to go look stuff up to find it, there all about proof, well they ask us for proof, we say the bibe, they say prove it was written, i say its called faith, and who in there mind would take there time to write 1000 page book, if it didnt exist? sounds rediculous.

Another way that evolution is repulsive, is that if one singel cell, developed into two orginism and thewn they developed into more and mroe orginisms, then everything should be the same species, that means everything should be able to mate and reproduce fertile offspring, but everything cant. A dog cannot simply put mate wiht a cat, because they are diffent species, well if we all came from one orginism we all sohuld have some DNA simalarities, But we do not, humans have totally dffrent DNA than a lady bug, horse, rabbit. How can that be if we all came from the same host?

Also, if you atheist out there could answer me this question, if monkeys evolved into us humans, than why are there still monkeys out there? If they adapted to survive then wouldnt the ones who did not adapt gone exctict?

If humans came form monkeys than we would closley look alike, right? Well explain how monkeys have dry wrinkley lips, and humans have nice juicy lips, and how we have eyes spread apart, while monkey's eyes are closer together, some humans have nice white skin, while monkeys have dark skin, how is skin tone form black to white, help that animal in surving the wilderness, it doesnt, thats why evolution has been fooled yet agian.

So all you athiest out there, if you have read this and you still dont even think about that evolution is fake, a big lie, a fariy tale like the three little pigs, you can believe lies, you can belive that some how one single cell trnaformed into billions of organism, also how can one single cell orginism devolp into two orginaismn to reproduce? But you belive what you, im not forcing you to belive anyhting, im just trying to get you to belive in the truth.

I personally dnt belive in god because evolution seems more likely and has more facts to back it up.

*EDIT* well not facts but ideas that seem more realistic to me.

There are many topics talking about it one of them being mine and the rest got locked but just try to use the search before making topics.

Anyways I don't believe in god.

dude i know collin u stupid i told u not to post it on the phone there like 8359475 more posts about it we dont need more...

and nice job on the Copy Paste bruh...

I believe that the two do not conflict. As the Summa Theologica states, faith can be explained through reason. So in response to your question, God made us so that we adjust and gain immunities. The animals seen by Darwin took centuries to evolve as observed. Humans exhibit this feature as well. The Africans developed dark skin to protect them from the sun. The people of Europe eventually grew immune to the bubonic plague. So I say this: we are intelligently designed to evolve.

no god thats it ^_^

I didn't read it but I might later. But I believe in God and that He made us able to 'evolve' to certain situations, like building up our immune system for diseases, and I guess "Tanning" to help our skin against the Sun.

i love these topics.

but first of all we all have to realize that what we respond here is an opinion because there is no real proof weather evolution is real or not. ithas not been proven it is purley on faith.
i am a christian. and everytime som one says "how is god real" or somthing along the lines of that, i just say "because he rose 3 days later, his bones are not in the grave."

there is a theory that i strongly belive in. it is said in the bible that god created the earth in 7 days. and there is another verse in the bible that says, to god a day is like 1000 years. so there is the theory that it took 7000 years for us to evolve and for the earth to form.
-the same theoligist discovered a theory that disproved the ice age theory. scientist believe that there are ceartain canyons and impressions on the earth that can only be explained by an ice age. but they never thought that it could also be explained by a flood on the earth that lasted 40 days and 40 nights like when god flooded the earth and noah had is ark.

but like i said, we cannot prove anything and we probally never will because god wants us to have faith in him and not proof.



and btw, that thing about monkeys having dry lips and human lips being "juicy" made me laugh so hard.

well the idea that humans have NOT evolved is ridiculous. were constantly evolving. example people are much taller now then they were a thousand years ago. Africans are taller and leaner in africa becase it disperses more heat while nordic peoples are shorter and more stout to retain heat. are you trying to tell me were not both human?

oh and cancer is caused by MANY things. and occurs in alot of creatures NOT just humans

humans go through EXTREME changes quickly. we all have different diets and are exposed to different climates and are taking medicine which is helping us survive for longer periods of time, which in turn has the effect of slowing down evolution. the longer a human survives the longer that human can breed increasing the chance that defects can be passed down into the next generation. humans also tend to not care who is the strongest and fastest when seeking a mate. and focus more and more on personality instead of just beauty or strength. so the STRONGEST does not exactly equal most LIKELY to survive. and i think in terms the human mind people have evolved much more. for example women took a more subservient role hundreds of years ago, but now women have in most countries equal oppurtunity. were evolving alright just in more subtle ways.

i find this statement

"One reason why this statement can be proven wrong is that just because a animal looks diffrent does not mean it is the same animal, could god not have created a animal, and then creat a animal with a diffrent apperance? With this whole adaption theory, the truth is that its wrong, evolution is all wrong, look i change is apperance all the time, i grow, i devolp, I change mentally, but have a evolved? If evolution does exist tell me one thing? If the animals that Darwin saw, had really adapted to there new enviroment, then why havent us humans adapted? If you will agree with me here our enviroment has changed in the past 1,000 years, has it not? There have been cancer's, pollution that effects our lungs and bodies, then why havent we adapted?"


very misinformed. your claiming adaptation is evolution and its NOT. not even close. evolution takes YEARS through GENERATIONS not just one group adapting to an environment. after that you say we haven't adapted in a thousand years? look around you. were not living in huts anymore or reading by candle light. weve ADAPTED. humans can live almost ANYWHERE. even SPACE. thats adaptation.

now on to DNA (oh and trust me i dont have any problem with arguing every point this first post has brought up or any other for that matter) every organism has SIMILAR DNA and if you bothered to look you'd realize that human dna is only a pecentage or so off of chimp DNA?

now on to why chimps still exist. and i want everyone to listen very closely cause ive said it a thousand times. its because HUMANS DID NOT EVOLVE FROM CHIMPS. but RATHER we share a COMMON ANCESTOR and evolved in DIFFERENT directions. then you assume that these creatures just die off. wrong. in the same way humans pass eye color to their children so too did this COMMON ancestor pass down its DNA.

now on to the SINGLE CELLED ORGANISM. you say that

"So all you athiest out there, if you have read this and you still dont even think about that evolution is fake, a big lie, a fariy tale like the three little pigs, you can believe lies, you can belive that some how one single cell trnaformed into billions of organism, also how can one single cell orginism devolp into two orginaismn to reproduce? But you belive what you, So all you athiest out there, if you have read this and you still dont even think about that evolution is fake, a big lie, a fariy tale like the three little pigs, you can believe lies, you can belive that some how one single cell trnaformed into billions of organism, also how can one single cell orginism devolp into two orginaismn to reproduce? But you belive what you, im not forcing you to belive anyhting, im just trying to get you to belive in the truth.


first off. your being insulting. sign of ignorance. then you say "But you belive what you, im not forcing you to belive anyhting, im just trying to get you to belive in the truth." is a completely hypocritical statement, get you and force you are synonymous. but an answer to the single celled organism is the simplest of all. the single cell organism is asexual. it splits off a clone of itself. same organism right? correct. but everyonce a million or so single celled organisms are deformed. now deformed is a loose term. this deformed organism might have been able to still survive cloning itself over and over. and this series of deformation may have then lead to one that survived on land better then water. and this process continued and continued and here we are.

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There really is a lot of these topics. So yea, I'm going to have to ask you guys to stop making so many and keep it to the single thread about it.
Anyways, I believe there is a God, he made us and to go to heaven you have to have a personal relationship with him. Done deal, there is no way science can prove any other theory then the bible. And before anyone says anything about Scientology being true, answer me this one question, where did matter come from?

Yeah arto I believe the same, 1 day in our time is nothing like 1 day in God's times. I don't believe that The earth and the heavens and all that was created in actually '7 days'. But they are merely labeled as the 'First day.. OF creation' Second day OF, etc.

I guess it would be awesome to experience evolution and to become supernatural with super powers and all Super strength!

you know the first part of zeitgeist movie is amazing, you all should give it a try.
It NEVER EVER EVER says god is fake, but tells you how the bible and jesus and just urban legends and myths based upon older myths.

You guys should really check it out.

And dont forget i have nothing against god, its just the idea of organized religion that i hate.
From crusades to the wars and conflicts going on now, it has all started because one group believe their god is the right god, that their books is the true word of god. Look as Bosnia for example how the Ugoslavians or however you spell it fought them over islam, or right now the religious exetremist being brain washed that the christians must be destroyed.

Religion is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL, if you dont believe me watch the documentary by Richard Darwin called Root of All evil, it won the documentary of the year award, and he is one of the most famous scientist in the world.

The true words of god are not in the bible, or the quran or some other stupid book that was made 1500-5000 years ago thats been changed more then we can think of.

The true words of god are all around us, and it tells us to have faith in ourselves, to live life to the fullest.
God would never tell his people how to live their lives, that is not god but the words of a person who wishes the control the world.

I personally believe in God, only I spell it Nature, because your god has never proven himself to me. but my problem IS NOT WITH GOD, my problem is with RELIGION!!!


And i believe Deism is the best religion if you wish to have one.

for all you christians watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y

PLEASE DO AND SEE WHAT GOOD WORDS YOUR BIBLE HAS!!


Religions are all alike, founded upon fables and mythologies as Thomas Jefferson once said

What we are debating as Christians is that 'Jesus is the Son of God'

Not 'Jesus was real'

Because there is proof and historical facts hat Jesus was real, we just don't know for sure if he was the Son of God.

i really don't care i just go by the facts i do want a god but just cant believe

i just wish people would start taking evolution seriously. its quite simple. and you know what? implies in no way that god doesnt exist. in fact such an elaborate system had to come from something right? and maybe people should stop taking the bible SO LITERALLY.