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Post Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:39 am

Mailas G wrote:Yeah but you know of something called lev-edit? I forget what else its called,
but many game programmers (like myself) use it to delete what ever is not in contact with the camera (or the view)
to de-lag the program/game you are running. My friend taught me how it works and most game companies use the
best processors to have atleast a 15% chance of lag in a game, which is VERY and almost not possible.
It all comes from the processor you are running, vista being one of the top notch.



I think its really not so much as the processor as it is ram and graphics on vista...my processor isnt the best out but i rarly use it...it sits close to idle on most things i do....

RAM is the BIG key to vista and microsoft saying that 512mb will run it is just obserd when i just boot my comp up and let it idle im usually sitting at about 650 mb of ram ussage



ive never had a lagg of any sort and i have an AMD 4600+ at 2.4GHz





btw nice avatar
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Post Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:07 am

Vista really seems to crave a dual core cpu, but I couldn't agree more with des.

you see 512mb as the ram for Vista and that is just plain wrong, but like I said, they make computers for XP with 256... which is also wrong. At some point I guess the companies just figure that they will make money off of people that are tired of a slow system.

At the same time though, I think Vista will revolutionize computers b/c they will be needing higher system specs to run, like Mailas said somewhere.

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:27 am

DarkPacMan77 wrote:Vista really seems to crave a dual core cpu, but I couldn't agree more with des.

you see 512mb as the ram for Vista and that is just plain wrong, but like I said, they make computers for XP with 256... which is also wrong. At some point I guess the companies just figure that they will make money off of people that are tired of a slow system.

At the same time though, I think Vista will revolutionize computers b/c they will be needing higher system specs to run, like Mailas said somewhere.

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well the general public are getyting more computer savy or atlest spreading the word that my new 512/1 giug computer that came with vista runs like sh*t....

so that will make the people demand more i think its all ready sumwhat happened...

even companies like dell and compaq/hp are complaining about vista becuz of the scoring system makes the computer look bad....


here i found this explanation it explains it very well


I have been running vista Ultima and there is something that doesn't seam to be getting discussed in all that much detail, but I believe this is something that could have quite a large impact on both computer manufacturing and software distribution.
Microsoft Windows vista uses a scoring system to assign a value to your computers performance. The value is called a "base score" and is determined by a number of factors. memory, CPU and disk speed are a few. Your base score is determined by the lowest value obtained from all tested items. So for example...

Processor 3.7
Memory 3.0
Graphics 3.6
Gaming Graphics 3.6
Primary hard disk 5.2

base score = 3.0

Microsoft claim that this scoring system will enable you to confidently buy software that meets your base score. In many ways this could be leading to a replacement of the now standard "minimum specifications" that we read on the back of software boxes. This could in theory be replaced by...
"requires vista base score 2.1"

This makes me wonder if software companies may start producing different versions of software to ensure their product is open to as many users as possible. Maybe offering a stripped down version for users with a lower base score.

I can't help but think vista is going to change the computing market. The OS seams to be very resource hungry. I wonder if this will make the cost of computers increase, or if it will push the price of components down. To run vista really well, you will realistically need 2 gig + of ram and a high end CPU.

I currently have 1.5 gig ran 3200 cpu and 250 gig hd and my base score was only 3.1

I guess vista is going to make things interesting.




that basically sums it up


with the base score on a brand new computer being say 3 the average joe can look at it and know 3 isnt very good and say the 3 is the graphics yet all the other specs are rated 4+ it tends to be something that comp companies do quite often

the companies are complaining becuz vistas scoring system makes them look bad for example i have an HP here is my score....


NOTE: that the highest current possible score is 5.9
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Now obviously my computer isnt too bad a C2D Etream processor is given a 5.1 score by this while i get a 4.9 and my hdd and ram have pretty decent scores as well...but my graphics are Pathetic....this is what HP and others are cpmplaining about becuz consumers get mad....


I just bought and am waiting for my 7600GT to arive which supposedly gets a 5.9 base score macking my overall computer performance be 4.7 white 2 gigs should get higher than 4.7 its obviously the cheap stuff...another reason HP is crying foul
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