Official Windows Vista Thread

i dont know how many people on here have vista my frist guess would be not many

but if you need help on it or have questions, coments or anything else regurding this is the place to do it

honestly, im not a big fan of it. turns out it was nothing but pure eye candy. i am a photoshop user and a gamer so vista lacks in performance and totally lagged out my pc. ussually, XP uses about 500ish MB of ram in free resources to run, Vista takes more than that, not sure by how much but its a known fact that it takes more resources than XP. I'll wait until later on in the end of the year when its more stable than it is now. i'll admit, the new GUI is outstanding although MAC had that sort of theme going on for some time now.

ps: yes i have a fast enough computer.

honestly, im not a big fan of it. turns out it was nothing but pure eye candy. i am a photoshop user and a gamer so vista lacks in performance and totally lagged out my pc. ussually, XP uses about 500ish MB of ram in free resources to run, Vista takes more than that, not sure by how much but its a known fact that it takes more resources than XP. I'll wait until later on in the end of the year when its more stable than it is now. i'll admit, the new GUI is outstanding although MAC had that sort of theme going on for some time now.

ps: yes i have a fast enough computer.

takes bout 600-650 when im not doing much...i dual boot xp and vist

and yes your right all eye candy but better security as well

[DarkPacMan77]

anybody that I have known to be using Vista has used a crack for it... so my question is...

how much more security does it "have"? or more importantly, "what" is being secured?

-DarkPacMan77-

I have a cracked version of vista but its not installed. Im waiting for other programs to update.

btw check this out.

It's all too easy to get caught up in the million dollar marketing engine as we approach the consumer release of Windows Vista, so lets not forget that it isn't the second coming, and by all counts is an upgrade you can do without.

There are many lists out there on why to get Vista, so here's ours on why not to.



1. You don't actually need it -- No, think about this. Vista doesn't do anything you can't already do with XP. About the only significant shift requiring Vista is DirextX10, but as no titles support it yet and, according to John Carmack (the godfather of modern gaming) there's no need to yet either.

2. Cost $$ -- It's so blindingly obvious, most people will be blinded to it. You already have XP, and alternatives like Linux are free. If you really want to throw money away, go give it to a local charity.



3. On that note, it's outrageously overpriced -- at least in Australia. As revealed in the current APC, even after taking into account the profit margin Microsoft Australia previously applied to XP (as well as exchange rates, as you would expect), Australians are paying hundreds of dollars more for their copies than in the US. In fact, it's cheaper for Australians to buy Vista direct by mail order from the States. If you think Microsoft Australia is reaming us, vote with your wallet.



4. Upgrading hardware -- XP was demanding at release, but Vista more so. If you have an older machine that struggles with XP at the best of times, Vista is out of your ballpark unless you spend even more money to upgrade. If this is you, see point 1.

5. Driver support -- Key hardware like video and sound is crippled at the moment -- while Nvidia is working furiously to get a stable driver for the 8800 out by the 30th, there's still no SLI support for any of the Nvidia range. And thanks to the removal of hardware accelerated 3D sound in Vista, Creative's popular DirectSound based EAX no longer works at all, muting this feature for just about all gaming titles on the market today. Creative is in the process of coding a layer for its drivers to translate EAX calls to the OpenAL API which is seperate from Vista, but going by past experience with Creative drivers we won't see these any time soon.[/img]

6. Applications that don't work -- there's been plenty of coverage about applications that won't work without a vendor update. These include anti-virus, backup and security software such as those from Symantec, Sophos and ilk; CD and DVD burning tools like the suite from Nero need updated versions to work; and even basic disk management and partitioning tools such as Paragon's Hard Disk Manager are awaiting an update for Vista to be compatible. How many more will fail as Vista enters mainstream? Even Firefox has issues with Vista.

7. It's a big fat target -- with a new and untested in the global wild architecture, virus and malware authors are going to work overtime exploiting the holes Microsoft missed. In fact it's already happening. Loath though I am to use the word 'security' and 'Windows' in the same sentence, Windows XP has at least been patched to the hilt and can be used with a plethora of reasonably effective security tools that work now, without waiting for an update down the track.



8. UAC -- Oh yes, the Microsoft solution for an operating system where mutli-user was an afterthought. Sure, you can disable it, but the OS then makes it clear then that the onus is on the user for any damaging programs that got to run with permissions, rather than with Windows in the first place. If you do have it on, it is going to annoy the hell out of you. It pops up far too frequently, and even on a fast PC, the UAC screen takes too long to come up and disappear.

9. DRM -- And to a lesser degree TPM -- were made for the RIAAs and MPAAs of this world, and the even tighter integration of copy protection mechanisms and 'Windows Rights Management' into vista are nothing more than a liability to you, the user. This ComputerWorld piece says is succinctly: 'it's hard to sing the praises of technology designed to make life harder for its users.' As for TPM, this short animated video shows just how far the rabbit hole goes. And to think you pay for the privilege of having the use of media you purchased and own dictated by third parties, even on your own system.

10. The draconian license -- somehow, Microsoft has forgotten that it built its business from products that empowered its customers, not hampered them. Of course, we forget that Microsoft's customers aren't you and I, afterall (see point 9). Aside from the backward thinking that is licensing, and not actually owning, your software new terms with Vista include being able to transfer the license only once; half the limit compared to XP for Home Basic and Premium on how many machines can connect to yours for sharing, printing and accessing the Internet; limits on the number of devices that can use Vista's Media Center features; activation and validation governing your ability to upgrade hardware and use Windows itself; and outlawing the use of Home Basic and Premium with virtualisation software, and Ultimate only if DRM enabled content and applications aren't used. But then again, who reads these anyway?

anybody that I have known to be using Vista has used a crack for it... so my question is...

how much more security does it "have"? or more importantly, "what" is being secured?

-DarkPacMan77-

stop being a smartass...btw yiu kno mines from a crack


to the poster above me i guess some of those are valid points..especially the money and not needing it...but eventually you will i might as well learn the OS now rather than later


as far as compatability and drivers go i kno sum ppl have thosew issues but ive had none other tjhan the version of nero i had dl wasnt compatible with vista so..i got one that was

I wont get vista installed until I upgrade my computer. I currently have 512mb of ram and I dont think thats going to cut it for vista. Not only that and I bet more then half my programs wont be compatible. I think its just a big headache. XP does everything I need done. Only difference I notice is the appearance which is exactly why I got Windows Vista Theme.

well i can run vista if i want to but i see no point on getting it, im happy with xp. I might think about it if Halo 2 comes out for the pc and requires it but even then i probably wont get it

anybody that I have known to be using Vista has used a crack for it... so my question is...

how much more security does it "have"? or more importantly, "what" is being secured?

-DarkPacMan77-

stop being a smartass...btw yiu kno mines from a crack

read the rules before you post.
I cant even believe you wasted my time with that nonsense.

[Terdinglage]

I love Vista, and I think Microsoft did a great job. I would say use a dual boot to be safe, but Vista is overall WAY faster and more secure, plus full access is only a timecrack away.

I love Vista, and I think Microsoft did a great job. I would say use a dual boot to be safe, but Vista is overall WAY faster and more secure, plus full access is only a timecrack away.

Its not faster. The system requirements are higher for a reason. Saying vista is fast is like saying norton anti-virus is faster then avast.

Maybe I should not be disagreeing with a admin but I must not hide what I truly have to say.

[Terdinglage]

I love Vista, and I think Microsoft did a great job. I would say use a dual boot to be safe, but Vista is overall WAY faster and more secure, plus full access is only a timecrack away.

Its not faster. The system requirements are higher for a reason. Saying vista is fast is like saying norton anti-virus is faster then avast.

Maybe I should not be disagreeing with a admin but I must not hide what I truly have to say.

What you mean arguing with an admin, not like Im gonna ban you? Yes, its faster, I could clock my XP vs. Vista boot times, not to mention that readyboost actually works. The way you make it sound, your saying XP is faster than vista, which it isnt (especially not by the margin between avast and norton).

Well other forums they ban you for arguing with their "staff" I did a lot of searching on google and everyone says XP is faster.

Do you do any gaming on pc?
Vista is said to decrease speed in gaming do some searches with google.

I love vista. When microsoft starts coming out with already installed Vista-PCs, all I can say is that
the processors will be much more productive allowing games to hardly lag or slow down at all.
The performance on this is overall great, just with Apple would stop doing those homosexual, or a pile a sticks, commercials.

Thats the only time when you should have vista. When its pre installed with them common duel core processors. I got an intel pentium 4 3.00ghz with h/t technology. I want to trade computers with my sister since she never even uses hers -_- and her computer is about 3x better then mine specs wise.