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Post Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:07 pm

New psp?????

i heard sony is thinkin about making a new psp with two analog sticks, has anybody els heard this?
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:24 pm

i was just reading up on it, but there will definitly be no modding it, they will put so much security and s**t on it, but hopfully we will find a way, wonder wats the cost if indeed its real
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:36 pm

All codes and encryptions can be reverse engineered and hacked. It doesn't matter if you are Sony or Nintendo or the CIA. In fact, I remember reading that the psp uses some sort of encryption type called AES (or something similar) and that it would take at LEAST three years by a dedicated hacker to decrypt.... now we see hackers using the same decryption keys as on older firmwares and still creating exploits.

The psp was hacked in the first week it was released. Any psp2 will definitely draw the same attention.

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Post Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:10 pm

How can you be so sure? They might install some new security features, but I guess people have
their ways especially if your a genius.
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:48 pm

I'm positive. It is a fact. An encryption is an amazingly long amount of code that, unless entered or interpreted correctly, will not allow someone to alter something.

[extremely lamen explaination]

In a sense, I could encrypt something with this key: 0100101100010100 or 153082323596 or sKo*[.~8<0?/\|`
Now, obviously, that type of stuff would be easy to get passed b/c they are common keys. Now, in a real-life situation nobody is going to make a simple encryption unless they just really don't care all that much and most that are made follow numeric guidelines and structures (long patterns or similarities - ex: 1000000000000001000000000000001000000000000001). If someone can figure out that pattern then they can reverse engineer the code and once they enter it or interpret it correctly then they can have access to alter it. Once someone is able to do such a thing, they can instruct the code to run alternate code (such as a downgrader for the psp).

Now, finding an EXPLOIT is something a bit different. An exploit is basically a "hole". It's an unfinished gap between the encryption and the code written by the maker. On firmware 1.00 hackers were able to make the own unsigned eboots and have them be run. That is an example on Sony's end, not necessarily their encryption key.

When you hear of a firmware that has been decrypted to be used in devhook or aid in the creation of a custom firmware... THEN you are talking about someone who has been able to figure out the code's "pattern" or repeating similarities etc. In the case of the psp, when something is decrypted what the hackers do is leave it as it is and just take the code in its entirety for their own benefit (b/c altering it would bring Sony to their doorstep). How is custom firmware legal then you may ask?... b/c it takes two legal files and edits them together, thus creating an entirely different end product and b/c it was decrypted then instructions can now be given freely. Also, forcing someone to remain at a certain firmware for something they purchase for private use is against the law b/c people have the right to make their psp run on any firmware they want.

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I hope that kinda clears up some confusion.

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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:50 am

DarkPacMan, you really know your stuff, let me help you explain to pspruler.

pspruler wrote:How can you be so sure? They might install some new security features, but I guess people have
their ways especially if your a genius.

DarkPacMan77 wrote:All codes and encryptions can be reverse engineered and hacked. It doesn't matter if you are Sony or Nintendo or the CIA.


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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:15 am

Its a PSP Lite, if you will
It will be another psp type, but not a psp2
so as for alternate controls, and dual anolog sticks, ehhhh no
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:52 pm

Supashay91 wrote:DarkPacMan, you really know your stuff, let me help you explain to pspruler.

pspruler wrote:How can you be so sure? They might install some new security features, but I guess people have
their ways especially if your a genius.

DarkPacMan77 wrote:All codes and encryptions can be reverse engineered and hacked. It doesn't matter if you are Sony or Nintendo or the CIA.


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lmao CIA, that is too rich.
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:05 pm

it is hackable because if a psp had a firmware that was unhackable Sony woulndt even be able to create updates for it
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:29 pm

makes sence
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:50 pm

I hope they make one that was the normal thing as the psp but had like a hard drive in side of it or someting that would be good.

but i dont think there going to make one
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:47 pm

yea same here unless they get a firmware with good security on the first psp. Why doesnt sony just put bettter security on the umds? thats the real problem for psp's is iso. If they want to get out of this mess why dont they put security on umds so they cannot be ripped.
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:24 pm

I like the current layout for the PSP. The only reason I could think of a second analog stick's use is for easier camera angles and Ape Escape. I know there are PSX games out there with both analog sticks required, but I think most of the "good" PSX games don't need it. Just my opinion.
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:18 am

im sending my psp in today for a dual analog mod, it looks amazing.
and i just pre-ordered the new coded arms and with to analogs on line will be SWEET!!!!

i suggjest u guys get the Dual Analog.
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:32 am

no the 2 analog is like the X, triangle, O, and Squar bottons, for FPS. so it would be smoother then using the bottons
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