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Post Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:40 pm

light_alistor wrote:HA no ive never OWNED a mac no. because its a stupid buy. they cost 4 of my freaking paychecks. why the heck are they so expensive?


I don't know, why do people pay so much money to eat snails?

I think it is a status thing or a need for exclusivity like look at what I can afford and you can't sort of thing.

Like Jaguar or Land Rover. Why pay so much for a car that has a reputation for being a complete P.O.S.?

Same for iPod. Why pay extra for an MP3 player that requires special software when I can pay a fraction of the price and have drag and drop convenience out of the box?

iTunes SUX!!
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Post Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:53 pm

Okay this is not a rant topic, if you want to rant about the mac go do it in the right thread not this one.

Anyways....

With the new macs out you can now get a macbook pro black on amazon for around $500-850, that being a brand new never used computer, so instead I might just get two of those and then next year get one of these new ones.
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Post Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:46 pm

.Yunoko wrote:Okay this is not a rant topic, if you want to rant about the mac go do it in the right thread not this one.

Anyways....

With the new macs out you can now get a macbook pro black on amazon for around $500-850, that being a brand new never used computer, so instead I might just get two of those and then next year get one of these new ones.



Do you have a link to a black MBP for less than $900???? I don't see any. Although, I'm not a major Amazon user, I may be looking in the wrong spot, but for that price, I'll gladly pick one up.
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Post Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:06 pm

Why even bring up that Mac fix it site?
There's plenty for PC's out there.
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Post Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:17 pm

.Yunoko wrote:if you want to rant about the mac go do it in the right thread not this one.


I am disappointed to read this.

This is the only thread about the new Mac books which most of us feel are over rated.

The majority clearly does not share your passion for Apple Computers and weighed in accordingly.

Everyone generally stayed on topic.

Are your feelings hurt? (seriously)

From now on no one bash Macs. Wait, why should anyone listen to me, I am not even a mod.

.Yunoko, which existing thread do you think would be the right one to post opinions on Macs if not this one?

Remember, everyone won't always agree with you and this isn't your alternate MySpace page.

The world does not revolve around .Yunoko so if you can't take criticism, you should reconsider posting on a public forum.
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Post Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:22 am

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.Yunoko wrote:if you want to rant about the mac go do it in the right thread not this one.


I am disappointed to read this.

This is the only thread about the new Mac books which most of us feel are over rated.

The majority clearly does not share your passion for Apple Computers and weighed in accordingly.

Everyone generally stayed on topic.

Are your feelings hurt? (seriously)

From now on no one bash Macs. Wait, why should anyone listen to me, I am not even a mod.

.Yunoko, which existing thread do you think would be the right one to post opinions on Macs if not this one?

Remember, everyone won't always agree with you and this isn't your alternate MySpace page.

The world does not revolve around .Yunoko so if you can't take criticism, you should reconsider posting on a public forum.


No, This was suppose to be a discussion about the new macbooks, and other mac products that just came out. I am just saying if you want to rant about them do it in the rant topic http://psp.brewology.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=150
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Post Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:42 am

que13x wrote:
light_alistor wrote:HA no ive never OWNED a mac no. because its a stupid buy. they cost 4 of my freaking paychecks. why the heck are they so expensive?


I don't know, why do people pay so much money to eat snails?

I think it is a status thing or a need for exclusivity like look at what I can afford and you can't sort of thing.

Like Jaguar or Land Rover. Why pay so much for a car that has a reputation for being a complete P.O.S.?

Same for iPod. Why pay extra for an MP3 player that requires special software when I can pay a fraction of the price and have drag and drop convenience out of the box?

iTunes SUX!!


People pay for functionality. Have you ever driven a Jaguar? It's an experience that is well worth what people pay for it in many cases. It costs more than a Kia but when you drive it, feel the handling, the ride, etc. you know where that money went. Land Rover not so much though. Lol!

Same with the Macs. The way OSX is written, it's hard for you to mess up your computer unless you're really trying to do so. Hell, most government work is done on computers with OSs based on the Mac OS! The hardware is spectacular. The screen itself on my laptop is beautiful! And if something DOES get messed up, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what it is most of the time.

And they last a long time. My brothers got Dell laptops a couple years after I got my Powerbook G4 and guess which is still going while the others have along since sh*t the bed? Yep, the G4. And they had a host of Windows-related problems along the way. Another friend of mine has owned 3 or 4 computers in the last 10 years while I've owned 2 Macs. So really, he isn't saving much if any money there.

As for the MP3 player thing, more people own iPods than other MP3 players because iPods work the best. They're so simple to set up and use that a monkey could do it. I can't tell you how many times I've sat down with people who bought other MP3 players trying to figure the damn things out. Plus the iPods support other filetypes than just MP3s. I can dump .WAV files of my latest mixes on there and they work great!

Also, I'm curious. You said you find the new MacBooks "overrated" but what exactly about them IS overrated? Especially when they haven't been on the street for more than a couple weeks. O_o

light_alistor wrote:HA no ive never OWNED a mac no. because its a stupid buy. they cost 4 of my freaking paychecks. why the heck are they so expensive?

they arent even cheap on EBAY?! WTF? upwards of 1500? seriously? i got my laptop (which by the way RUNS OSX docta. and yes i am familiar with the OS) for 500! it does everything the mac does PLUS plays games. there isnt anything a mac can do that a pc cant for a FRACTION of the price.

and if macs work SOOO well why does this site exist? http://www.macfixitforums.com
not only that i talk to people who own macs. i work at radiocrack now and go to college where alot of people with laptops have macs.

so yea i may not know macs first hand but i know OSX and deal with macs all day.


They have a much longer shelf life than most PCs do. My Mac plays games too. Granted I can't get every ridiculous FPS game that comes out, but again, I don't really use my MAc for gaming outside of a few emulators and Mac game here and there. Even if it DID have more games, I probably wouldn't use it for that.

I'll also bet there are at least 10 times as many PC fix it forums.

Working at Radio Shack, "going to a college where a lot of people with laptops have Macs," and running an emulated version of OSX on your laptop that you've probably never gone beyond skin deep in checking out doesn't constitute knowledge, especially with that nice little admission that was the last line of the post I quoted. Sorry son, try again. :lol:

crait wrote:When you buy a Mac, you're basically buying a metaphoric jailcell.
You can't upgrade the parts inside.
Oh, wow, you updated your Harddrive.
Guess what. I can update a hard drive on my MP3 player.
If a good game ever happens to come out for Mac, you'd have to buy a whole new machine.
That's why they come out with new laptops all the time.

And stop telling people that they haven't tried one because we wouldn't know all the endless problems unless we used one.
I was forced to use Macs all the time in school when that's the only computers we had.

Let's make a list of all the stuff you, DoctaMario, said you like about Macs:
# They are well designed.

Well, I'll have to give that one to you, the case of the Macs are pretty to look at.
But for the rest of us who actually use their compter, we (98.7% of all computer users) will stick with PC.


You can upgrade the parts. Who ever told you you couldn't? O_o And why would you need to buy a new machine when a game comes out on the Mac? I know that happens with PCs but most games that come out for Mac (all 3 of them, Lol!) are optimized for about 8-10 years of technology. So I could run Halo on my elderly Powerbook G4, even though it wouldn't run as well as it does on my MacBook Pro.


Which Macs were the ones you had to use in school? If they're the same ones I had to use, I hated those too, but the new Macs are awesome. OSX blows away every previous Mac OS before by a long shot. I don't know what these "endless problems" could be. What problems are you talking about? Even though i hated those old Macs, I never had any problems with them.

If you think that's all I've said that I like about Macs, you haven't been reading. I suggest you go back and re-read my posts . I use my computer for recording, mixing, mastering, (all that right there is more than most computers can handle, especially at the level I'm working at), for internet, for pictures, watching movies, ripping DVDs, downloading, etc. and that's just off the top of my head. Even a bit of gaming here and there. Trust me, I use my computer (and pretty much every piece of technology I own) at a high level.



The bottom line is, it's an OS. It's a means to an end, a way to run programs. An analogy: when I turn on the cold water tap, I expect cold water to come out. If it doesn't, or if I have to worry about the pipes, the water company, etc. then the system has failed. With OSX, I can just do what I need to do without having to hope that everything's going to work right. Windows isn't functional in my eyes, which is why I prefer Macs.

As someone who does a lot of audio production, using a Windows PC is a fool's game considering the lack of stability and functionality of Windows based audio software.
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Post Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:30 pm

.Yunoko wrote:This was suppose to be a discussion about the new macbooks, and other mac products that just came out. I am just saying if you want to rant about them do it in the rant topic http://psp.brewology.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=150


:roll:

**NEWS FLASH**

This IS a discussion about Mac books and Mac products. Unfortunately you don't seem to be able to handle/accept how unpopular they are with the majority of the people posting.

I have a better idea, since everyone pretty much weighed in on this topic and there is no point in beating a dead horse, why don't you go to the link you recommended and spill to your own delight about how people don't share your point of view, particularly about Macs.

You should not always expect special treatment just for being female.

DoctaMario...
Not intending to cause chagrin but..

My father owned a Jaguar XJ6. He ended up giving it away to a friend because the wheel came off the hub when the ball joints wore out prematurely. The engine had constant electrical problems and a host of other things. My father spent close to 6 figures over 2 years trying to keep this thing rolling just cause it was a Jaguar, his favorite brand of car.
My friends mom owns a Land Rover and she spends $5000 every 4 to 6 months every time it goes in the shop. No clue why she holds on to it.

I posted what I know about these expensive cars from what I have seen and there is no way anyone could have known that from the way I posted. These cars are expensive and a high measure of workmanship and quality should be expected but is not provided. The point I was trying to make was

You don't always get what you pay for.
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Post Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:11 pm

que13x wrote:
DoctaMario...
Not intending to cause chagrin but..

My father owned a Jaguar XJ6. He ended up giving it away to a friend because the wheel came off the hub when the ball joints wore out prematurely. The engine had constant electrical problems and a host of other things. My father spent close to 6 figures over 2 years trying to keep this thing rolling just cause it was a Jaguar, his favorite brand of car.
My friends mom owns a Land Rover and she spends $5000 every 4 to 6 months every time it goes in the shop. No clue why she holds on to it.

I posted what I know about these expensive cars from what I have seen and there is no way anyone could have known that from the way I posted. These cars are expensive and a high measure of workmanship and quality should be expected but is not provided. The point I was trying to make was

You don't always get what you pay for.


Cars are weird. There's so much that can go wrong with them, and quality can vary drastically even within the same make and model line. Everyone talks about how those Honda Accords last forever, but I used to have one that died around 120,000 miles. You are right though, you don't always get one you pay for. Your mum probably could have bought a whole new Land Rover by now. :lol:
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