Official Religion Debate Thread

Blimmin isn't an insult in the context im using it in, and i dont think it can be used as an insult in any context.
its like saying when someones anoying you "oww F**k sake" to yourself.

^ just to clarify.

I still dont see how it can be used as an insult. it just doesn effect me. but then again, im american.

[DarkPacMan77]

I still dont see how it can be used as an insult. it just doesn effect me. but then again, im american.

Um... it isn't... like Alex just mentioned.

Back on track troops or I'll walk you off thee plank.

-DarkPacMan77-

We are now in the sign Pisces. Pisces is represented by 2 fish.

This sign was set because it is during this time of year when fish were becoming more active as the warmer waters signaled nature to do it's thing thus making fish more plentiful and easier to catch.

Pisces is also the name of the astrological age we are currently in. The beginning of an astrological age is always marked by spring and lasts more than 2000 years. Due to precession, the astrological ages run opposite than they do in the night sky and so the next astrological age will be Aquarius which will begin on March 21 400 years from now.

March 21 also marks the beginning of spring in the northern hemisphere. Spring represents a renewal for this is the time when the cold dead land becomes warm and green (springs to life) or is "born again" as it is every year during the yearly seasonal cycle.

March 21 is the first day of the year when there are more hours of daylight than there are hours of night so it can be said that light triumphs over darkness.

The comparisons...
The age of Pisces began around 1 AD, the biblical Jesus is said to have been born around this time.

In Astrology after Aquarius, the sun enters the next sign Pisces, after The baptism, Jesus takes disciples from among the fishermen (Matthew 4:18 ).

The fish is is the universal image of Christianity. You can see it on certain churches and these days on the rear of some cars.


In ancient times the "spoked wheel" symbol represented the ministry of Jesus. The "wheel" is made by superimposing Greek letters for the word fish ( ΙΧΘΥΣ or ΙΧΘΥC ) on top of one another The Greek letters in the word fish are also an acronym which translates to "Jesus Christ Son of god, Savior.


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If the hot link above doesn't work for you try this one http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/11nov/israelarch.html

So what is your point exactly??? THe fish is used yes. the fish is a sight that Jesus made us FISHERS of men. but please elabortate on what your saying.

[crait]

I get it now! Thanks, Que!
Brewology uses hot, brewed tea as its logo! Therefore, anything we talk about on this website must be about tea!
And since your name is Que, then therefore, you must speak Spanish!
Your logic is amazing!

The age of Pisces began around 1 AD, the biblical Jesus is said to have been born around this time.

The fact of Jesus' birth, the place, the nature, and the purpose are clearly taught in the scriptures (Matt. 1; 2). However, God did not see fit to explicitly reveal the date. We do know that Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the King (Matt. 2: 1). History informs us that this Herod died in 4 B. C. Hence, Jesus would have been born no later than 4 B. C.

Just because things are the same and have coincidences does NOT mean they are the same thing. I mean Hell Water and Coke are liquid and they are both drink. Are they the Same hell no. Dont anyone say that i am being ridiculous by stating what i did, cuz Que is doing the same thing with this.


no wi did research this and can agree on this

In ancient times the "spoked wheel" symbol represented the ministry of Jesus. The "wheel" is made by superimposing Greek letters for the word fish ( ΙΧΘΥΣ or ΙΧΘΥC ) on top of one another The Greek letters in the word fish are also an acronym which translates to "Jesus Christ Son of god, Savior.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthys

and this is also goin with the fish showinng a nother reason why its used by christians.

…when a Christian met a stranger in the road, the Christian sometimes drew one arc of the simple fish outline in the dirt. If the stranger drew the other arc, both believers knew they were in good company. Current bumper-sticker and business-card uses of the fish hearken back to this practice. The symbol is still used today to show that the bearer is a practicing Christian.

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Thanks, Tyler- You beat me to it. I was going to say the exact thing about meeting other Christians.
Oh, and check this:

Fish may have been used as symbols before Christianity, possibly representing several goddesses; it has been associated with Aphrodite, Atargatis, Dagon, Ephesus, Isis, Delphine and Pelagia.

Fish represent a lot of gods and goddesses so pinpointing that Jesus is related to so-and-so is just as accurate as saying he is related to the others.

[DarkPacMan77]

You guys are COMPLETELY MISSING the idea of Jesus being represented by a pagan symbol and entirely missing the point that Que is trying to make.

-DarkPacMan77-

Yes I am please explain more.

Fish may have been used as symbols before Christianity, possibly representing several goddesses; it has been associated with Aphrodite, Atargatis, Dagon, Ephesus, Isis, Delphine and Pelagia.

Exactly!

I think now you are beginning to see. It's an old story that has been told and retold many times. Updated for the times like X-men or Ironman.

You mentioned Isis the Egyptian mother of Horus. This makes me think of Queen Semiramis, the Babylonian equivalent of Isis mother of Nimrod. Semiramis existed long before Isis. Semiramis also makes me think of Mary and Jesus.

Not only is Semiramis sometimes associated with fish but she is also associated with doves. In Christianity the dove is a symbol of the holy spirit. The symbol of the Spirit is applied to Mary to signify the great unity between her and the Spirit as announced in Luke 1:34.

Coke and Pepsi may both be sodas but the end product is an obvious one, dominance over the other. Same with religion. Christianity is just a modern update of older beliefs just retold and repackaged for the ages.

Krishna with his mom and a lamb


Isis and Horus.


Guess who...

Why do so many seemingly unrelated religions have the same mother and child theme? How come the children in these religions are proclaimed as saviors of mankind?

Buddah(not pictured) went to the forest and passed 3 trials.
Jesus(as I think you know) went to the desert and was tempted 3 times.

If the story is original why are there so many similarities with other belief systems? That is the question I ask and I hope someone may provide a satisfactory answer, for all of us.

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We keep asking for elaborations.

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Okay, doves are also symbols outside of Christianity.
So, what? There can be different meanings for things.

[DarkPacMan77]

So, what? There can be different meanings for things.

Part of the message Que is trying to show that no matter how many times the same thing is written, the people believing those religions are choosing to deny the plagiarism seen in modern religious texts when compared to religions existing before Christianity.

-DarkPacMan77-

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Just because most religions have a common 'good-hearted' theme, doesn't mean that they are all the same or plagiarized.

How many television shows do you see on TV telling people to kill others? You don't see it because it's wrong. Not because the shows are copying each other.

religions existing before Christianity.

-DarkPacMan77-

how long do you think earth has been around? are you like every other person who believes its billions o' years ago?

18 centuries of BIBLICAL christianity. jsyk