Global Warming

It is impossible so far to change from using Oil, it is simply impossible.

I think greed makes it impossible. There have been alternatives to oil since before the Wright brothers. There have been many good alternative vehicle designs over the years and every time a really good one comes out the Petroleum conglomerate buys the idea and puts it on the shelf. Where are these designs now? still on the shelf. Why? Because we are not running out of oil so there is no need for them right now according to those that control the oil. What is worse, the oil speculators keep driving the value of oil up and up to make the most out of every drop. We as a people have put up with it for so long that we feel that this is the way it is supposed to be. Every time a Palestinian boy throws a stone the price of oil goes up, everyone knows it and this is why we as a country should really find out the real reason 5000+ Americans have died in the middle east since 2003

There is no possible way to stop using oil.

There is! A process exists today that turns pig excrement into a type of petroleum that yields a viable fuel. The process is on the shelf even though pig waste also causes a lot of damage to the local environment. I used to worry about plastics too but plastic can be made without using petroleum from the ground so we are ok there.

not only are plastics made form oil but alot of medicines use oil in their production.

This is true that some medicines use oil to treat certain illness I do not know which ones but there is a way to use bacteria to kill other bacterial that does not harm people so if antibiotics are made with those bacteria, there would be no need to use oil in medicine anymore.

The bottom line is that there are alternatives but there are so many people that want to profit and would rather see the alternatives fail. So many people think "F tomorrow, I will worry about it when it comes" that they do whatever they want today without a worry as long as it does not affect their profit margin. I do not think that there is anything wrong with making a lot of money, but I do think that if you make more than you can spend in your lifetime and you desire to hoard more you have serious issues!

Just like global warming took time to show itself I think it will also take just as much time to fix itself unless drastic measures are taken.

so greedy people are to blame and but its not just them to blame every who uses it and is to lazy to change to an alernative fuel source

Some may think that they have no choice since they have good paying jobs that are far away from where they live.

Thats true, I know there are an abundant amount of bribes an stuff to politicians and stuff to keep up Oil research and development. (from the oil companies). Yeah theres that, I know if we work at it then we might find something. But we seriously need an ABUNDANT amount of alternatives, not just a little bit here and there, he need a crap load. As the others stated,l oil is used for about everything. I used to have a list.. I debated this topic in class before. Still, we gust gonna throw away the hundreds? of millions of vehicles that we have? And all of the jobs that people have with oil, just throw them out onto the street I guess.

But lemme think of some uses for oil

paint, brake fluid, gas, fertilizer, insecticides, diesel fuel, jet fuel, wire coating, tires, candles, lipstick, carpets, glue, shampoo, vcr and cassette tapes, crayons, golf balls, skis, roller skate wheels, and dice. Thats a short list of uses for oil. But I'm sure in ime we will find alternatives for the not gas use of oil, but we still use such an abundant amount without the vehicle consumption. We really need a lot of alternative fuel for vehicles, a little here, a little there isn't going to do much.

The alternatives are there we just lack the desire for example electric cars have been around for a long time. Fact is, they are not as fast as gas cars. So why not use hydrogen for fuel instead? Well because the powers at be decided to pull hydrogen from processing natural gass and this is expensive and time consuming. I doubt this is how NASA gets the millions of gallons of hydrogen it needs to shoot a shuttle into space. Just to show an example of alternative methods of obtaining hydrogen, anyone ever use liquid plumber? see those bubbles? that is Hydrogen and there is a lot of it released really quickly.

Like I said, there are alternative ways of acquiring hydrogen but if everyone could easily collect rainwater or pull sea water to run their car who would profit from it? What it really comes down to is...


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[DarkPacMan77]

Yes, global warming is natural. If we ever had such things as "ice ages", and those were perfectly natural, I'm amazed that people are wondering why a warm period of time would be "unnatural". It's only because of Earth's wobbly axis and its alignment with the sun.

I think the media is doing a great job of making people believe that global warming is entirely man-made though, which, as soon as you realize who runs the media and who influences governmental policy, you'd begin to understand that they are one in the same.

-DarkPacMan77-

Yes, global warming is natural. If we ever had such things as "ice ages", and those were perfectly natural, I'm amazed that people are wondering why a warm period of time would be "unnatural".

It is seen as unnatural because some scientist carved a tube of ice out of Greenland, cut it slices the way you would a salami, looked at it under a microscope and studied it with the aid of a computer and was able to see back in time hundreds of thousands of years. He noticed bands and patterns and there were even bubbles in the ice that basically stored samples of the air from way back when. He could verify volcanic eruptions from the ash and the change of the seasons from the trapped pollen. Eventually he graphed his results.

The graph had the usual peaks and valleys one would expect from such an interpretation until it reached a certain point in our relatively recent past. The graph began a steep climb where he expected the beginning of a valley. That climb coincided with the American industrial revolution, you know, the one with the trains and factories pumping noxious smoke into the air?

That is the reason people in the know wonder about the warm period that we are having and assume it is unnatural.

Well it was shown that global warming isn't real and was just a stage. Supposedly it will be global cooling now, we all gonna freeze to death.

I have never heard of that but I am interested in your source if you can provide one.

I do know that the oceans circulate in a certain direction and water density is responsible for this. If the density of the water changes (by adding fresh water in the form of melting ice) this circulation will be disrupted.

This circulation is responsible for the Pacific coast beaches being a bit colder than the Atlantic coast beaches. In the Pacific cold water flows from North to south along the coast. In the Atlantic it is the opposite warm water flows south to north.

It is also possible that if the ocean flow stops or reverses that it would change the weather in ways we would could not expect or possibly predict.

Yes, global warming is natural. If we ever had such things as "ice ages", and those were perfectly natural, I'm amazed that people are wondering why a warm period of time would be "unnatural". It's only because of Earth's wobbly axis and its alignment with the sun.

I think the media is doing a great job of making people believe that global warming is entirely man-made though, which, as soon as you realize who runs the media and who influences governmental policy, you'd begin to understand that they are one in the same.

-DarkPacMan77-

But here's the issue, adding greenhouse gases only makes things worse. Think about it, everything has moved naturally, then when the Industrial Revolution came and coal and oil were used more and more for years. We take the natural climate, then make the atmosphere retain more heat by adding CO2, methane, etc. That extra heat changes many things. There is a lot to explain, but look at ocean currents. If the global temperature is affected by the massive quantities of GGs, the currents that affect temperatures could become less predictable, or have more el nino periods. And as the ice-caps melt, the salinity of the water changes, and the density as well. Change that, and there may be major consequences. Just like que13x pointed out. Also, Advent, who on Earth could say it isn't real? History has shown it is real, but today the question is: "Are we making things worse?"

Oh que, I was jk lol. But someone will probably try to bring that up at some point, some environmentalist activist.

look all im saying is this.
If we have the power to make a bomb that can destroy a entire city in seconds, than i PROMISE you
That if we spent the time and money needed we can find a alternative to oil.
I PROMISE YOU!!!

If we can make Atomic Bombs, or bullets that penetrate 6 inches of steel (50 caliber) than we can make alternatives for fuel.
Its just that we dont spend 400 BILLION dollars a year on things to help our earth, instead we spend 400 billion on weapons, and only 3 billion on finding an alternative fuel, if im not wrong

You guys should read up on Carbon Chemistry and you'll see how hard it would be to completely replace oil.

You guys should read up on Carbon Chemistry and you'll see how hard it would be to completely replace oil.

i never said itll be easy
im just saying if we would spend 400 billion dollars on it a year, WE COULD FIND A REPLACEMENT!!!
I mean just think about it, if we can make things that go in space, if we can cure disease, if we can make all these kinds of bombs, if we can make armor that stops the most lethal weapon, if we can make computer, THAN I BET

We can make replacement for oil!

We have been working on the Cure for Cancer for years.. no luck.