The day Bobby Kennedy died

thinking that Oswell killed Kennedy by himself, with out any help on the planning, and just because Kennedy was good is a RIDICULOUS conspiracy theory itself.
It makes absolutely no sense.

How the hell can a single person kill the president? there is no way, he has help, and you can see that when the secret service steps down, the f*cking secret service steps down, are you joking me? is that normal to you?

And que quit making it sound like i said there was more than 1 person who shot him, i know oswell did it by himself, but he has help in the planning, thats all im saying

They are a secret group, if they werent than the whole world would know about it, but only few know. They make themselves sound like a conspiracy and look like they aren't real, because they dont want the people to know they are real.
So its all tricks, they understand what they are doing.
But whatever, believe whatever you wish

Whatever.

[DarkPacMan77]

I'm positive that I could kill the president as a solo job.

Saying that there is a secret group who pull the strings is just as plausible as saying that there's a secret group of elves that make toys up north. Now, while I am not the type of person to believe my government fully and even highly doubt elements of the CIA and military myself, I simply don't see a motive for an opposing side to carry out an assassination of this magnitude. I don't see an agenda on the other side that benefits from this.

Perhaps it's just a mysterious part of history that we'll never quite know for sure, but for me, if I were highlighting aspects of our modern world that link to illuminati or elitists or men behind the curtain, the assassination apparently carried out by Oswald is a very weak argument, in my opinion, to prove the existence of said entities.

-DarkPacMan77-

you dont see why they would want to kill him?
just listen to this speech
its 100% legit go google it if you dont believe me
JFK talks about "secret societies" and he promised to show them to the world.
It was because of his words that the illuminati really got out
just freaking listen to him words

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ngJNIk8elA


EDIT: i mean Dr. Seeral Wet, he is the former head of the american academy of forensic scientist, he is the expert elected by other experts to represent them.
He even says that there HAD to be another shooter, this is not just some nut job saying sh*t with no proof, he is the former HEAD OF AMERICAN ACADEMY OF FORENSIC SCIENTIST, i hope you guys understand what that means.
He says, the second shot that hit kennedy in the head came from the front, you say "where is the proof"
wellffi you look at kennedy when he gets shot in the head, he goes backward and that to the left.
When you have a bullet hitting you from the behind, you go FORWARD, very simple physics, but kennedy goes backward.
Now what does that suggest?
Does that make sense
Think to yourself, "when someone gets shot from the behind, does he go forward or backward?"

Anyway, watch "who killed JFK", its good for you, but there are some parts i dont agree with

OH GOD...ANOTHER YOUTUBE LINK!!

Everybody knows that nowadays anyone can cut and paste anything, that includes video and audio, Example:

Audio only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fws4RxWtnOg

Video and Audio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YwYaNkj ... re=related

Another example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYvfxvDwJxA&NR=1

I would like to know whom among us believes W actually gave this speech?

If anyone really wanted to prove that Kennedy used those words in the Youtube link They would need to find the transcripts of the speech which might be found in The National Archives in Washington DC.

I bet if anyone compares the speech with the above link they would see that they do not match word for word.
I guess the all powerful Illuminati is responsible for changing a presidential speech that was given over television which was viewed by millions of people. They would be to blame for the archives not matching the posted Youtube hack job.

I think this post proves how worthless Youtube actually is as a reference for supporting facts.

OH GOD...ANOTHER YOUTUBE LINK!!

Everybody knows that nowadays anyone can cut and paste anything, that includes video and audio, Example:

Audio only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fws4RxWtnOg

Video and Audio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YwYaNkj ... re=related

Another example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYvfxvDwJxA&NR=1

I would like to know whom among us believes W actually gave this speech?

If anyone really wanted to prove that Kennedy used those words in the Youtube link They would need to find the transcripts of the speech which might be found in The National Archives in Washington DC.

I bet if anyone compares the speech with the above link they would see that they do not match word for word.
I guess the all powerful Illuminati is responsible for changing a presidential speech that was given over television which was viewed by millions of people. They would be to blame for the archives not matching the posted Youtube hack job.

I think this post proves how worthless Youtube actually is as a reference for supporting facts.

i know it was a joke...
damnit i guess i didnt make a clear
realize how i said "research it on google its real" i was being sarcastic

But i have heard from a lot of people this is real, please find out for me Que because i am not able to, i have tried

it also seems real though

and this speech is 100% real i dont know what your talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YwYaNkj ... re=related
yah i know its edited but its 100% true


ALSO since you dont believe youtube, here is the same speech from google video, DO YOU BELIEVE IT NOW? its not from youtube!!!!
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=t ... tesearch=#

but you know what, why cares
maybe im wrong, maybe your wrong, who knows.
whatever, but i like how to dont address anything i say, you just go to making my joke seem real when it was only a joke

[DarkPacMan77]

He's the youtubrewer for a reason. I myself don't watch television, so I can't pull video from references on television unless I go through youtube, but still, I think it's important to not take video as fact.

-DarkPacMan77-

Look, there is nothing wrong with Youtube. Many of the videos are pretty damn funny and some are even educational. The site is worth billions of dollars for a reason. All I am saying is that if you want to make a point about something you need to consider the source, and Youtube for the most part, is not a good source.

If you want to make a point and get it to stick you need to be prepared to defend it. That means finding out more sources than just Youtube.

You will learn this if you ever have to write a term paper some day.

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Youtube is just like wikipedia if you ask all my teachers. We have never been able to use wikipedia or youtube as a credible source when writing research papers. We can go to wikipedia though and look up the soruces cited on the wikipedia page and use those though, but it still stands that youtube is still tonz of random user submitted content :p Just pointing that out.

Youtube is just like wikipedia if you ask all my teachers. We have never been able to use wikipedia or youtube as a credible source when writing research papers. We can go to wikipedia though and look up the soruces cited on the wikipedia page and use those though, but it still stands that youtube is still tonz of random user submitted content :p Just pointing that out.

Same, even though Wikipedia HAS EVERYTHING lol, but we couldn't use it. I had to do a research paper for my current events final, it was 24 pages I think.

you know why you cant use wikipedia? Because it has things that they dont want you to know.
I hate how people say wikipedia is not credible and say anyone can change it. THATS BS. To change wikipedia you have to not only go to the forums part, discuss it with people, you have to have them support you and a certain percentage of people have o agree with you, NOT ONLY THAT, you have to present credible sources
So the thing about wikipedia being not credible is BS

Now, que you know that speech is true. Even though i cant go to DC and find it in national archives, we both know tis true, its been used hundreds of times by not ONLY TUPAC, but by hundreds of more Truth Activist as PROOF to why he was murdered and that there is a illuminati. I mean TUPAC made a damn album about them.
So you say the illuminati dont exist?
Will lets take a history listen
It was founded in May 1, 1776, same year as the Declaration of Independence by a Jesuit called Adam Weishaupt . They were a Secret society inside what was at that time a secret society, the free masons. They were the Elites of the Elites, they knew every secret the world had to offer. JUST TO CLEAR UP, this is no conspiracy, they were discovered and that why people say today they dont exist. Anyway, illuminati means the Illuminated ones, or the enlightened. The group was given the name"Illuminati", although they called themselves "Perfectibilists"
After Karl Theodore became the ruler of Bavaria he banned all secret societies, as the saw the danger they caused. It is said that around 1781, when the groupd was strongest it has ever been with 2,000 members, some of the most powerful politicians of europe, it just vanishes.
Now people say " if they vanished this means the broke and were destroyed right?" no it doesnt, it means they vanished, where do people get the fact that this group was destroyed. So they lived behind the curtain.
As you see through history, a group of bankers like the Rockefeller's basically ruled all the banks in europe. In the revolutionary war, they funded both sides of the war, and guess who both sides owned debts to? guess who became rich.
Rockefeller were part of the illuminati many say. But today they are the head, the masters of that group. We know they exist, there has been many people who have talked about them and been killed
You ask who, will lets name a few, William Cooper, Tupac, JFK and many others.
These people knew, they saw, but unfortunately we dont.

Now their plan is the NWO which has been announced by not only Goerge Bush, but by Goerge W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown
The biggest proof we have has been the Bilderberg group who are real.
Before 2004, if im not wrong, no one knew about them. They held secret meetings in hotels and the media never covered them. Until Alex Jones exposed them, and every year they have meetings Alex Jones and countless others follow them.
In 2006 they caught on video David Rockefellers, one of the richest bankers in the world. There they also saw the owner of the world back, Very rich and powerful business many and just plain extremely powerful people
You can google to learn more about them.

But anyway, these people exist, those who have tried to expose them have died trying to, and yet we are ignorant to these facts. Why is it so hard to believe that the most powerful and richest people in the world have a plan for this world?
Its like the people are blind, they think everything is a coincident.
Tupac gets killed " well yah that was some opposing gang member"
William Cooper gets killer " Oh he had a a AK-47 in his hard that he pointed at the police" turns out it was a single shot long rifle that was IN A VAULT IN HIS ROOM!!!! nothing in his hands, and the person who shot him turns out to be a ex-CIA agent who was a police at that time
JFK gets killer " Some normal dude killed him for being a good person, lets just IGNORE THE FACT THE SECRET SERVICE STEPPED DOWN!!!!" People just blindly follow this BS they are fed instead of researching and seeing what is true.

Do you know what all these people had in common?
THEY ALL TALKED ABOUT A SECRET SOCIETY, an they all had a lot of power!

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Your wrong about wikipedia...
I made a flippin page on a disease we made up in class one day that was completely fake. I don't know what ever happeend to it, but wikipedia does have useful information but unless it's a popular topic, you can't completely trust it, just like a made up a fake topic without no forums or nothing.

But that still doesn't change the fact that the teachers won't let you use it :p Not every single person in the world is plotting against you...

thats why when someone makes a page, there are forums.
On there people can report you for making a fake page and it gets deleted
or on the page it says some like " does not included references"
Or "topic is not fully correct"
and stuff like that.

So i am not wrong, wikipedia is the most credible because people can actually come and discuss it and make changes the correct way.
But on other website, you just have a article where no one can comment or make changes, so you never know its true

But in wikipedia you can go look at the comments and the discussion forums

[DarkPacMan77]

1. Anyone can edit wikipedia pages. Some are restricted more so than others, but anything on wikipedia needs to be thoroughly reviewed before taken as "the most credible" source, as you say farquezy. Wikipedia is certainly not the most credible source.

2. I've talked about the illuminati. I'm sure millions of people have. I'm also pretty positive that Tupac never personally KNEW any of the illuminati. Now, taking that into consideration, you can't just assume that people who died mysteriously were killed because they've discussed the illuminati. I'm sure that you could take into account hundreds of thousands of unexplained or otherwise mysterious deaths in the world and trace back to them discussing the illuminati at some point in their life, but that doesn't mean that they were killed because of it.

To assume a small group of elite men have personal tabs on THAT many people, or interests in them, for that matter, is preposterous.

-DarkPacMan77-

dude half the secret societies arent secret anymore.... but maybe thats wat they want u to think... god u people act as if the world could end any day because of some retarded gov conspiracy... if u ask me(which u wont) there probably are secret societies... and some of them are working for good instead of lets assassinate everyone who mentions us.... also jfk had his personal doctor inject him with the same drug cocktail as Hitler.... according to an unreliable source on youtube or wikipedia point is, wats the point wats done is done and wats dead is dead remember and learn sunrise sunset .....btw farq at least has never rickrolled anybody... i think he deserves credit for that...