2008 Presidential Election

Just what I heard on the radio. But instead of blowing it off like it is nothing, it would be better to actually research it.

I look forward to your posts after you complete your research.

Biden made the comment to bring it down to 150k.

A 401k is started for retirement, but why spend a tax for someone elses retirement when trying to make your own retirement?
Once the economy goes back up the amount will recover.

And those "close" relatives don't live out of country. Research some stuff.

Obama won't even prove his birth in America, when asked, he doesn't answer.

Everytime something at all is stated against Obama is is merely scattered to the side as if he is the messiah, why?
Is your mind so set on him that you believe there is nothing wrong with him?

heres a random article about stuff
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 042571.ece

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=78931

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs ... .aspx/3074

Here is what I see in Obama,

Well first you have to accept the fact that the US president is a figurehead. That being said no matter who wins the election(Obama) the country will head down the same path.

Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal are all terms used to divide America as a nation. Nothing in the country or the world for that matter will change unless most of us wake up and see things for what they really are.

The (global) economy should be of primary concern to everyone but so few people understand how it works it is pathetic, and little if any effort is ever made to change that.

Do you know that America exports tomatoes to Mexico? Do you know we import tomatoes from Mexico? Does this make sense? America ships chicken to China just to have it cut up and shipped back to the states. Does this make sense?
The US president chooses the Chairman of the federal reserve from a list given to him by...directors of the federal reserve.
Make sense? I mean shouldn't the president be able to choose anyone he pleases and have congress decide like with all OTHER executive offices?

Now, about Obama, he is organized and better educated than his rival. Obama speaks his mind and is intentionally misunderstood. McCain was shafted by Bush in 2000 now he is trying to throw everything at Obama and this is important, see, Hillary tried the same thing in the primaries and it did not work for her. McCain should learn from the mistakes of others, it is the military way, but graduating at the bottom of his class leads me to believe strategy is not his strong suit. Hillary sought the popular vote (choice of the people) to win the nomination. Obama knew superdelegates were the key. I call that good strategy.

Mike Huckabee should be Obama's opponent but since W has strong influence in the RNC McCain got the nomination for being a "good supporter" over the last 8 years.

McCain's comments about the economy show his lack of judgment, need I even bring up Palin? Even the most competent and intelligent republicans are appalled at McCain's VP choice. Everyone knows McCain is old, crazed and losing his mind along with the election. Michael Bloomberg would have been the serious choice for a presidential candidate that has stated time and time again that economics is not his strong suit.

So without going into much personal detail on the individual candidates, I believe Obama is the sensible choice, but on November 4th, you are free to make your own choice.

Everytime something at all is stated against Obama is is merely scattered to the side as if he is the messiah, why?

No offense...but have you actually watched a single debate? Just watch how many times McCain tries to twist Obama's words around and provide false facts (not even lieing when i say False as in made up facts) about Obama and then when it's Obama's turn he quickly replies with the correction of what McCain falsly tried to smear him with.

McCain is all about manipulation and false images. If you want someone who's about that to be you're president all the best for you're country...cause America will definately drop from #1 to #400 in an instant if McCain is elected.

By the way, did anyone get a chance to watch the SNL vs Real comparison of Palin that i posted in the old thread? i'll repost if need be.

By the way, did anyone get a chance to watch the SNL vs Real comparison of Palin that i posted in the old thread? i'll repost if need be.

I think I missed this. Would you mind reposting?

By the way, did anyone get a chance to watch the SNL vs Real comparison of Palin that i posted in the old thread? i'll repost if need be.

I think I missed this. Would you mind reposting?

Here you go...

snl skit vs real palin...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE2gE-VVjBI

full version of the snl skit...
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/ ... en/704042/

"Katie, i'd like to use one of my life lines"

I think i had a different youtube link for the real vs snl but couldnt remember it...


By the way...You remember when i told you guys that when america's economy suffers the rest of the world suffers due to the fact the america is one of the top importers in the world...well check this out,
http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/ho ... omy_081031

Canada is headed into a recession.

I had seen the SNL skits for Palin but I never realized how little the were edited from what was actually said. The Vice Presidency under Palin has been turned into a joke and she herself is completely to blame!

There is plenty of talk about Obama not having experience and needing on the job training once he is in the White House. Should something unfortunate happen to John McCain who will need on the job training then? At least Obama has never performed so pathetically in an interview.

I think McCain supporters are unaware of what John McCain has stated during this campaign.

McCain says:

"The fundamentals of the economy are sound"

"I'm going to be honest, I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated".

"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should"

"I might have to rely on a Vice President that I select for expertise on economic issues"

The country is in an economic crisis. Obama has stated he will turn to Warren Buffet for economic advice.
McCain will apparently seek advice from Sarah Palin.

So as I understand Staxx, America still leads the world economically. With eminent global economic meltdown in mind the choice is obvious. It is a wonder why McCain is even still running or doing as well as he is.

I'm guessing McCain won't ask Palin for advice about Economic stuff, both him and Obama said they were gonna work with whoever in office.

And @ Staxx, of coarse I watched the debates what kind of question is that? You seem to be totally on Obama and refuse to think anything negative about him. They both bring negative points across and try to bring the other person down.

Why do you think Obama can fix the economy and not McCain? Are you saying that only the president makes the decisions when fixing the economy? Because I seriously doubt that, they have a pool of people they go to. Why in the world would Obama's people do better than McCain's? Are Obama's more superior or something?

Why in the world would Obama's people do better than McCain's? Are Obama's more superior or something?

To have an idea on how their White House will function just look at how the campaigns are being ran.

Hillary chose unqualified friends to run her campaign and it was plagued with infighting.

McCain tried to emulate W's campaign and the straight talk express ran out of steam. Luckily he got a second chance.

Obama's campaign has been the most stable of them all and runs strong.

How can a candidate run the White house if they can't manage their campaign?

I think this fact really highlights the leadership qualities of the candidates.

Obama's campaign is big cuz the media is on overhaul and people want "change". And he is a great speaker.

You seem to be totally on Obama and refuse to think anything negative about him. They both bring negative points across and try to bring the other person down.

Yes they both bring negative points, never said that they didnt. Obama's points are just full of facts compared to McCains which are just plainly full of lies.

If McCain had something half decent to offer America i'm sure I would'nt be downing him so much. Fact is i'm just supporting what i feel is the better candidate.

Obama's campaign is big cuz the media is on overhaul and people want "change". And he is a great speaker.

Ask yourself now...why is it like that?

Also I must know Advent...Did you like Bush as a president?

The media also follows Obama because McCain clammed up in the late spring and quit talking and answering their questions. Sure he would put out a few statements but he would not take questions. Frustrated reporters said "F" this and have been following Obama ever since. Also Every time McCain attacked Obama it gave Obama a chance to explain his self and put his message out.

My own personal belief is that McCain just does not have the correct strategy to beat Obama and win this election. I don't know if there is any time left for him to shift gears and try a new strategy again especially one that is not obviously desperate.

I don't know if there is any time left for him to shift gears and try a new strategy again especially one that is not obviously desperate.

I think if he switched his strategy again it would ruin his campaign...he's already switched it what 2...3 times? That would send a spark off in most people's head thinking "WTF?!? Does this guy really know what he's doing?" It's almost like having split personality.

No time though anyways, the voting for you guys is on the 4th correct?

I don't think it would ruin his campaign. The only thing that can do that are some really incriminating tapes and I just don't see anything like that surfacing for John McCain. McCain just did not have the right people in the right places and I think he was just too honest at times when he should have kept quiet about certain things. McCain put up a good fight but did not learn form the mistakes of others. He also lost a lot of support after Palin's poor showing at interviews. I mean she did OK against Biden but let's admit it, expectations were low. There was even some talk of having Tina Fey(a look alike) stand in for Palin in some interviews because Fey had more knowledge than Palin.

Nalin Palin prank call: http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/ ... 6&src=news

As for voting, it depends on where you live. Many places allow "early voting" which occurs a week or two before Election Day in certain areas.

In Florida early voting means you can vote wherever you like as long as you have an ID. On Election Day you still need an ID but you can only vote in your district usually in a school near you house.

Early voting is also nice because you can avoid long lines.

If you want a smooth voting experience, vote early. If you like to stand in line, wait till Election Day.

Sorry if this at all appears random, but is anybody else sick of the blatent BS being fired in all directions? Seriously, I saw an ad that played the "reverend of hate" card, and the judges are attacking each other with the same 2 examples constantly. If it wasn't bad individually, I've seen up to 5 consecutive political ads, each one containing slander, lies, and impossible promises.