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Post Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:07 pm

Re: Hey you there...

andose88 wrote:"consumed"®, not obsessed. Go to sleep everyone. Just enjoy your lives until you die. See you all on judgement day!!! Will be a sad and happy day at the same time. Prepare or not?!? :cry: :( :? :) :o :D
Judgement day? as in day jesus fights satan or when robots take over?
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Post Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:21 pm

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farquezy wrote:
andose88 wrote:"consumed"®, not obsessed. Go to sleep everyone. Just enjoy your lives until you die. See you all on judgement day!!! Will be a sad and happy day at the same time. Prepare or not?!? :cry: :( :? :) :o :D
Judgement day? as in day jesus fights satan or when robots take over?


Apparently someone has never heard of Skynet...

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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:59 am

Oh and que, im going to read the communist manifesto, sounds interesting.
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:28 am

Question.... im to lazy to watch the vids, so... what is the whole thing? what is the venus project? im sorry, im feeling noobish today.....
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:25 am

farquezy wrote:Marx said communism required a strong federal government
He said initially a strong opposition to the current system would be required to implement the revolution. The problem is that most governments that adopt communism never move beyond this stage or pick and choose certain parts of Marx philosophies, I have Mao and Lenin in mind here.
farquezy wrote:i just learned that you do have private ownership in venus project, you own your house, your stuff, and no one can take it away from you
Its based on the simple laws of life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, pretty much like the laws we have now
You don't own anything under Venus Project. You can take whatever you like and keep it but it states there is no point since nothing has value and there is no scarcity of goods. Watch Zeitgeist Movement Orientation again and pay attention to the part about travel. He states that since you own nothing there is nothing to move. If you want to go somewhere you just up and go and use whatever you like at your destination.
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:45 pm

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farquezy wrote:Marx said communism required a strong federal government
He said initially a strong opposition to the current system would be required to implement the revolution. The problem is that most governments that adopt communism never move beyond this stage or pick and choose certain parts of Marx philosophies, I have Mao and Lenin in mind here.
farquezy wrote:i just learned that you do have private ownership in venus project, you own your house, your stuff, and no one can take it away from you
Its based on the simple laws of life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, pretty much like the laws we have now
You don't own anything under Venus Project. You can take whatever you like and keep it but it states there is no point since nothing has value and there is no scarcity of goods. Watch Zeitgeist Movement Orientation again and pay attention to the part about travel. He states that since you own nothing there is nothing to move. If you want to go somewhere you just up and go and use whatever you like at your destination.
Yes he does say that, but what i meant is that if you want something no one can forcefully take it away from you.
If you like your house, you can stay in it, no one can take it from you.
That was the point i was making.
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:47 pm

airplanes18 wrote:Question.... im to lazy to watch the vids, so... what is the whole thing? what is the venus project? im sorry, im feeling noobish today.....
Its a plan to abolish boring jobs and replace humans with machines, abolish the monetary system and have a society that uses no money. There is also no central government and hardly any laws.
thevenusproject.com can explain further, what i said is very brief explanation.
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:49 pm

que13x wrote:
farquezy wrote:i just learned that you do have private ownership in venus project, you own your house, your stuff, and no one can take it away from you
Its based on the simple laws of life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, pretty much like the laws we have now
You don't own anything under Venus Project. You can take whatever you like and keep it but it states there is no point since nothing has value and there is no scarcity of goods. Watch Zeitgeist Movement Orientation again and pay attention to the part about travel. He states that since you own nothing there is nothing to move. If you want to go somewhere you just up and go and use whatever you like at your destination.

How the hell would that work?
I know what the little hour long video says. There were parts about not having to sign up, or in to anything.
So what? No locks?
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:51 pm

roxfox64 wrote:
que13x wrote:
farquezy wrote:i just learned that you do have private ownership in venus project, you own your house, your stuff, and no one can take it away from you
Its based on the simple laws of life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, pretty much like the laws we have now
You don't own anything under Venus Project. You can take whatever you like and keep it but it states there is no point since nothing has value and there is no scarcity of goods. Watch Zeitgeist Movement Orientation again and pay attention to the part about travel. He states that since you own nothing there is nothing to move. If you want to go somewhere you just up and go and use whatever you like at your destination.

How the hell would that work?
I know what the little hour long video says. There were parts about not having to sign up, or in to anything.
So what? No locks?
I dont understand what your trying to say
And from what i see, you havent watched the orientation, i suggest watching it if you wish to learn more
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:31 pm

Have too!!!

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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:44 pm

light_alistor wrote:its pretty hilarious what he did there though. really you can make anything sound like an illuminati plot to take over the world


People walking into the sunset always symbolizes the conclusion to the story: And they lived happily ever after.
'And they rode off into the sunset, living happily ever after...'

Stating that the buildings are in a triangular shape that represents the eyeball-pyramid thing is absurd!
First of all, just because something is shaped like a triangle, doesn't mean that they are related.
Secondly, why on Earth would anyone leave clues like that if it were true?!?! That's like burglarizing a house and leaving your business card.
Thirdly, WTF! Look at this! http://www.surlyramics.com/Surlyramics/ ... %20new.jpg I typed in 'eye heart' on google images.
What about this? http://www.spacetoday.org/images/SpcSht ... 00x597.jpg
I typed in 'plane' and got a triangle with an eye in the middle!!!
Oooh! NASA == NWO!!!!
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:23 pm

We are so past this crait.
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Post Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:59 pm

The Venus Project aims to eliminate a monetary system. Eliminating a monetary system will eliminate social standing/ classes. Eliminating social standing will then cause science to standstill and would be difficult to cause a change in power politically.

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Post Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:35 am

heh but its true... you REALLLY CAN make everything sound like an evil conspiracy. its ridiculous how many "experts" can convince people of the most preposterous of things. makes me want to start a cult honestly. if hubbard didnt beat me to it.... the dick.
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Post Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:08 pm

Holy f^$&ing crap dude, i think im a communist now.
Well not really, but just read like few pages of the Communist manifesto by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels.
This is so much better then the Bs they teach at school, they make communist sound like the worst thing in the world
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