Didnt want to come back

yeah, all in my comment. anyways, if anyone notcied what this was about, me and her talked it out, and im doing WAY better.

thanks for the suppo--- wait, no one did.

anyways, can we like, stop commenting here? i hate getting emails about this topic already.

[BKFraiders7]

@Airplanes:Then unsubscribe to it. The reason no one gave you support is because your about 14/15.

@Deth: Why cant we have a discussion? Isnt that what a forums about?

[DarkPacMan77]

I've got 7.

1. If the person contributed a ton to the site, and has been their for a long time,
I don't think they'd be too happy about all their posts being wiped out, even though they were banned.

2. Depending on the case of why he/she was banned, Resurrection is common here at brew,
a lot of people would rather be unbanned from a previous account rather than have to make a new one

3. It comes off as extremely unprofessional, unless the account being deleted is years banned
or the account didn't contribute a good sum of posts / discussions

4. It's possible something stupid like deleting an account by accident could happen >_>

5. It's permanent. If the remover decides to change his/her mind, it can't be undone
(unless the remover had access to backup php files, which the remover most likely won't.....)

6. To keep a record for future reference

7. To keep track of our past. Without knowing the past, we could repeat the past in the future. Then would we be moving backwards or forward? In my thinking, backwards.

In response:

1. Why keep a record of their posts if they aren't a member? Keeping the account with all of the posts made isn't the only way to keep track of things.

2. It's actually very uncommon to get out of a ban. Most bans are indeed permanent, however, when people pay me absurd amounts of cash I often make them favors. Your account would have been deleted, in fact, had I obtained the proper screen-recording tools at the right time to deem such an action fruitful. I decided to give you a long, long ban instead and another chance.

3. We've never claimed to be too terribly egotistical about being "professional" around here. We're amateur modders and homebrew users (for the most part). BKF's account is my fault and my fault alone for the way it turned out, but if you aren't someone obsessed with post count, this is something that is a non-issue, in my opinion.

4. Even if it was on purpose, he's completely restored and has all of his previous powers.

5. We keep backups. I'd think you would know. In any sense, BKF's post count won't be restored. He and I have already spoken about that and that issue should only be between two people anyways.

6. There are better ways for keeping records for future reference than to keep accounts active whom have been banned. At a time, there was a bot in place of checking to make sure that any accounts which remained banned after "x" amount of days were deleted in full. I liked this because if I didn't care enough to restore their account (and hadn't been paid a handsome purse as a bribe to unban said account) I would just forget about them. I took that off, however, just as a precautionary measure. I quite liked that though.

7. Any posts made by a deleted user that aren't defined to be deleted themselves remain even after a deletion. These posts show the users name and says "guest" for their title, usually.

-DarkPacMan77-

[crait]

So.... 1 and 6 are the same?

[DarkPacMan77]

So.... 1 and 6 are the same?

Purdy much. The main point being that the posts aren't "gone" and that the user, as reference material, can still be looked up.

-DarkPacMan77-

I BANNED BKF GOOD FIGHT SON

I've got 7.

1. If the person contributed a ton to the site, and has been their for a long time,
I don't think they'd be too happy about all their posts being wiped out, even though they were banned.

2. Depending on the case of why he/she was banned, Resurrection is common here at brew,
a lot of people would rather be unbanned from a previous account rather than have to make a new one

3. It comes off as extremely unprofessional, unless the account being deleted is years banned
or the account didn't contribute a good sum of posts / discussions

4. It's possible something stupid like deleting an account by accident could happen >_>

5. It's permanent. If the remover decides to change his/her mind, it can't be undone
(unless the remover had access to backup php files, which the remover most likely won't.....)

6. To keep a record for future reference

7. To keep track of our past. Without knowing the past, we could repeat the past in the future. Then would we be moving backwards or forward? In my thinking, backwards.

i cannot believe the emence irony of this post is so huge that i just gagged. well done another level of irony in the forum i thought that would not be possible.
to put this in perspective in my person opinion Mailas this isn't ashot at you just my opinion you don't want this to happon just because you have been very close to being banned more then once and we're banned for along time.
and some of your points just make me damn right laugh.


1. If the person contributed a ton to the site, and has been their for a long time,
I don't think they'd be too happy about all their posts being wiped out, even though they were banned.

if they were banned all THEIR rights are gone, they broke rules which to my memory they have read understand yet nevertheless broke and theirfore deserve to be punished with which ever means a admin/mod see's fit if you don't like it well its tough S**t move on.

just reread BKF's post and everthing you need to know is pritty much in their, if you don't understand it or want to argue about it reread it again and again.
This isn't a 4chan forum and never shall be. we arn't just gonna let trolls roam free or leave accounts honestly, if you care about post counts that much please go away its sad lame and shows your only here to get "THE BIGGEST POSTCOUNT" wooo wow oww nice you got say 9k of posts by spamming well done, i couldof done that aswell accept i couldn't care less.
Don't be a noob have respect for what the Admins and mods say as its better to be with them then against them as if we're against we have f**k all power anyways.
If you can't beat them, Join themhmm?
in my opinion your argueing about something complete stupid that doesn't need to be argued about as its for the staff to decide.

[DarkPacMan77]

Look guys, the bottom line is that accounts ARE deleted as the staff views fit. Accounts ARE banned as the staff views fit. The staff, for any reason, can ban any account or delete any account that we want WITHOUT giving ANYONE a heads up.

Yes, someone being here for a long time may be angered if they are banned and deleted, but there's no reason that the staff SHOULD respect their wishes if they've violated our terms of service or rules.

Now, in retrospect, the number of accounts of actual members that have contributed [anything] to the site and for some reason or another violated our terms of service and have had their accounts deleted can be counted on ONE HAND... and that's sparing a couple fingers. Go ask PSP-Hacks how that little issue is going for them if anyone thinks we're strict on that one. But for all sakes and purposes, this thread will be locked. Appeals made to me may take time as I work a 10 hour shift today.

-DarkPacMan77-