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What faith do you practice, or would most closely associate your beliefs with?

Christianity
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48%
Buddhism
1
2%
Hinduism
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2%
Judaism
1
2%
Agnosticism / Atheism
15
25%
Other
3
5%
None or Undecided
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8%
I'm not sure
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Post Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:19 pm

BKFraiders7 wrote:Washington Monument

Holiness to the Lord (Exodus 28:26, 30:30, Isaiah 23:18, Zechariah 14:20)
- Washington Monument

Search the Scriptures (John 5:39)
- Washington Monument

The memory of the just is blessed (Proverbs 10:7)
- Washington Monument

May Heaven to this Union continue its beneficence
- Washington Monument

In God We Trust
- Washington Monument

"Praise be to God" (engraved on the monument's capstone in Latin as "Laus Deo")
- Washington Monument

As impressive as that post is only the above is relevant because I specifically mentioned examples of monuments not quotes from past leaders. Leaders always say what needs to be heard.

So that is one example and it is a huge copy of an Egyptian design.

One more thing...

It is said that The Washington Monument is 555 feet in visible height (6,660 inches). Not sounding very Christian now is it?
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:01 am

it takes a special person to be so wicked as to find ever little thing in ANYTHING christians use to make it satanic.

visible hight? it is 555 feet 5⅛ inches tall. do your math again. when proving a point, dont round, unless its necessary.

in meters, thats 169.3m. i rounded this one cuz im not proving a point about it being satanic.




if you were to be correct, the EXACT hieght would need to be the number of the beast. nice enthusiasm tho
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:55 am

que13x wrote:As impressive as that post is only the above is relevant because I specifically mentioned examples of monuments not quotes from past leaders. Leaders always say what needs to be heard.

So that is one example and it is a huge copy of an Egyptian design.

One more thing...

It is said that The Washington Monument is 555 feet in visible height (6,660 inches). Not sounding very Christian now is it?



are you freaking kidding. that is the stupidist thing i have ever seen here. the Beast "number" is 666 not 6.660. thats like going to the store and your total being 76.66 ans saying its the number cuz there are 3 sixes. ist 666 ans thats it. not mixed with other numbers in a row. WOW just WOW

I hear all the time well thats the prob with christians. you know what. AT least i have something to believe in. something to strive for. SOmething to get me thru the days that are absolute hell. I believe that i get to go somewhere wen i die. How can you not believe in anything? how can you think you just die wen you die? Why is your goal to prove other "religions" wrong? I dont get it.
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:20 am

This currently isn't about Religion being right or wrong.

Or what you need to get you through the day or life. I am not twisting what Christians use. I only want to raise awareness.
This is now about "god being taken out of America". I am questioning which god that may be, and if it's the one you are thinking of, was he ever there to begin with?

I will concede my post about the monument height. I admit it was a stretch at best but at least some of you bothered to challenge me on it (I appreciate that). The fact still remains that The Washington Monument is of unmistakable Egyptian design.

Both the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials along with other federal buildings including the capitol are examples of Greco-Roman temples.

The first floor of the capitol building is called the crypt, an odd name for a place that doesn't serve a funerary purpose don't you think?

The pentagon is the center of an inverted pentagram that points to magnetic south. A pentagram is a symbol associated with occult/pagan beliefs not Christian beliefs.

All I am trying to say without giving long exhaustive examples is that I know not of a single Christian influence in the design of the nation's capital. There are more pagan examples in the nation's capitol than in any other place I know. So if Christ isn't the inspiration then what is?
I wonder what the inspiration for this odd statue could have been...
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George Washington Statue at National Museum of American History - Washington, D.C.


Naa. Must be me trying to twist and pervert everything Christian again...
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I had to add this in because of the nit picking about the sword not being present in the other picture and the fact that the goat is cross legged and doesn't have a sword. I wonder if there will be criticism because the second devil picture is standing on a pillar instead of sitting on it?
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:57 am

Re: This currently isn't about Religion being right or wrong

que13x wrote:Or what you need to get you through the day or life. I am not twisting what Christians use. I only want to raise awareness.
This is now about "god being taken out of America". I am questioning which god that may be, and if it's the one you are thinking of, was he ever there to begin with?

I will concede my post about the monument height. I admit it was a stretch at best but at least some of you bothered to challenge me on it (I appreciate that). The fact still remains that The Washington Monument is of unmistakable Egyptian design.

Both the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials along with other federal buildings including the capitol are examples of Greco-Roman temples.

The first floor of the capitol building is called the crypt, an odd name for a place that doesn't serve a funerary purpose don't you think?

The pentagon is the center of an inverted pentagram that points to magnetic south. A pentagram is a symbol associated with occult/pagan beliefs not Christian beliefs.

All I am trying to say without giving long exhaustive examples is that I know not of a single Christian influence in the design of the nation's capital. There are more pagan examples in the nation's capitol than in any other place I know. So if Christ isn't the inspiration then what is?
I wonder what the inspiration for this odd statue could have been...
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George Washington Statue at National Museum of American History - Washington, D.C.


Naa. Must be me trying to twist and pervert everything Christian again...
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yes, yes it is. look at the fingers. george has ONE finger pointing up, and a knife in the other. also, his feet arent crossed and one is out.

thats like saying the "faceshaped" clouds in the 911 attack were actually satan too. once again, good luck, try again
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:14 pm

Thats truly a bad comparison que. They dont look remotely alike, except for the 2nd guy. But he has boobs.

And I dont know how else to get it through your head that the "God" on every dollor in America, as well as the true Pledge of Allegiance is the Christian God since you dont take every founding father and many MANY presidents since are saying it.

Its plain ignorance.
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:29 pm

Tyler wrote:are you freaking kidding. that is the stupidist thing i have ever seen here. the Beast "number" is 666 not 6.660. thats like going to the store and your total being 76.66 ans saying its the number cuz there are 3 sixes. ist 666 ans thats it. not mixed with other numbers in a row. WOW just WOW

I hear all the time well thats the prob with christians. you know what. AT least i have something to believe in. something to strive for. SOmething to get me thru the days that are absolute hell. I believe that i get to go somewhere wen i die. How can you not believe in anything? how can you think you just die wen you die? Why is your goal to prove other "religions" wrong? I dont get it.


No offense but the same can be said by people trying to prove their religions correct.
Implying that other religions are false, being as 2 religions would really contradict each other.

You guys can't yell at him for him trying to prove Christianity wrong, when your doing the exact same thing,
trying to prove him wrong by claiming it does exist.
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:15 pm

Look.

I am not saying George Washington is the devil. I am sure he was dead when the statue was made. I doubt George ever wore a toga or a robe whatever he is wearing and I doubt he ever handled a sword like the one pictured. You don't have to agree with my comparison but can we agree that it is an odd sort of statue to represent an American president? Can we agree to that?

It isn't just one statue that looks out of place or one monument it is many monuments and buildings that look out of place.

If this nation really was inspired by Christianity then it sure doesn't show it. It didn't show it back then and I don't think it shows it much under the surface now.
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:47 pm

que13x wrote:I am not saying George Washington is the devil. I am sure he was dead when the statue was made. I doubt George ever wore a toga or a robe whatever he is wearing and I doubt he ever handled a sword like the one pictured.


If you say this, then the picture has absolutely no relevance to this topic. I mean, like you said, it DIDNT happen and since it DIDNT happen someones imagination got ahold of them and did this.
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:54 pm

Actualy thanks to QI the beasts real number is not 666, or 999, its more like 661 611. so you fail. like BKF has done i would like to see airplanes and everyone this includes me back their facts with research.
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:04 pm

Alex Finlay wrote:Actualy thanks to QI the beasts real number is not 666, or 999, its more like 661 611. so you fail. like BKF has done i would like to see airplanes and everyone this includes me back their facts with research.


I dont know what you mean by QI but hes wrong...

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:02 pm

crait wrote:Okay, just because two things are similar, doesn't mean that they come from the same thing. Que, you keep trying to make this connection...
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:38 pm

True crait but when it keeps happening over and over you have to wonder...
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:51 pm

Thats the thing... these things dont even look alike.
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:30 pm

BKFraiders7 wrote:
Alex Finlay wrote:Actualy thanks to QI the beasts real number is not 666, or 999, its more like 661 611. so you fail. like BKF has done i would like to see airplanes and everyone this includes me back their facts with research.


I dont know what you mean by QI but hes wrong...

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)

when translating form latin they did it wrong.
"Beast's real mark devalued to '616′"
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