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Post Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:14 pm

no humans were not around when dinsoaurs where.

Actually the original bible written by jesuses deciples states that the earth was only 6,010 years old and that everything revolved around the earth. Now this is the ORIGINAL bible, the very first made ever. Before the pope and bishops started to notice their little god had forgotten about the stuff he did and changed the book so that it fit with the scientific discoveries.

Now if the ORIGINAL very first bible that was made by jesus himself was wrong about those, what else could it be wrong about?

Also god hates homosexual, or a pile a sticks, and blacks.
i dont know know where in the bible it says these but in this video it says exactly where in the bible these words come from....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY3EU32rWc#2sBbYE7DIzc

lol i find that funny, god hates the people he made himself....

Also bible says there were giants and unicorns, but no such thing has been found in Gen 6:3 and Job 39:9.
Science can cure disease and smash the atom to make nuclear explosions but be so wrong about the bible...
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:42 pm

farquezy wrote:no humans were not around when dinsoaurs where.


Do you have proof that no dinosaurs where around when humans where?


farquezy wrote:Actually the original bible written by jesuses deciples states that the earth was only 6,010 years old and that everything revolved around the earth. Now this is the ORIGINAL bible, the very first made ever.


So the first Bible was written by the disciples?

farquezy wrote:Now if the ORIGINAL very first bible that was made by jesus himself was wrong about those, what else could it be wrong about?


So the first Bible was written by Jesus?
What was the Bible wrong about?

farquezy wrote:Also god hates homosexual, or a pile a sticks, and blacks.
i dont know know where in the bible it says these but in this video it says exactly where in the bible these words come from....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY3EU32rWc#2sBbYE7DIzc

lol i find that funny, god hates the people he made himself....


please.. all the people did was find a single verse in the Bible that looked good to use against God and say "Oh God hates these people". It is not very smart to pick and choose a verse that you can use to manipulate simple minded folks to veer away from God. Because that is just one verse, the people do not read all around that verse to see what God is ACTUALLY talking about.

In those same verses it speaks against prostitution, adultery, lieing, and well its wrong to speak against your parents, you should honor and love them.

When it speaks against barbers, if you read around that, it speaks that of a time of self-discipline and a sort of fasting to not eat meat and to not cut yourself and to not put marks on your body.

Just because God says these people will be put to death because they disobey the law, it doesn't mean he "hates them" ... "Hate" is an overused word that when people use it, they don't know what it means.

farquezy wrote:Also bible says there were giants and unicorns, but no such thing has been found in Gen 6:3 and Job 39:9.
Science can cure disease and smash the atom to make nuclear explosions but be so wrong about the bible...


What? You said the Bible says there where giants and unicorns then you say there is no such thing in the Bible?
And what? Science can cure diseases but be wrong about the Bible? Since isn't wrong about the Bible, what are you trying to say?


EDIT: haha, i watched some more of the vid and it said:
It's a simple case of bigots "Picking and choosing" that fit into whatever crap they're bi**ing about at the time.
(Refering to Christians)

When they themselves pick and chose all these verses that make people actually think God hates these people.

farquezy wrote:Also god hates homosexual, or a pile a sticks, and blacks

Where in the Bible does it say God hates Blacks?
Also god hates homosexual, or a pile a sticks, and blacks
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:31 pm

farquezy wrote:no humans were not around when dinsoaurs where.

Actually the original bible written by jesuses deciples states that the earth was only 6,010 years old and that everything revolved around the earth. Now this is the ORIGINAL bible, the very first made ever. Before the pope and bishops started to notice their little god had forgotten about the stuff he did and changed the book so that it fit with the scientific discoveries.

Now if the ORIGINAL very first bible that was made by jesus himself was wrong about those, what else could it be wrong about?

Also god hates homosexual, or a pile a sticks, and blacks.
i dont know know where in the bible it says these but in this video it says exactly where in the bible these words come from....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY3EU32rWc#2sBbYE7DIzc

lol i find that funny, god hates the people he made himself....

Also bible says there were giants and unicorns, but no such thing has been found, it says these things exists in Gen 6:3 and Job 39:9.
Science can cure disease and smash the atom to make nuclear explosions but be so wrong about the bible...
then who wrote the bible? and i was being sarcastic about science being wrong and stuff.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:40 pm

The disciples wrote the Bible.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:49 pm

thats what i said :)
but ahh so jesus had nothing to do with the bible? why not?
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:54 pm

Well in the new testament it involves 'God' who speaks to Abraham and Isaac and Adam and Eve and these new figures pop up that experience God's will and they are the people that wrote the old testament.

The new testament was written by people who actually met Jesus, not God. Jesus was the one who came to earth and was crucified. In some Bibles, the text is red in the new testament when Jesus is talking. However, these where quotes that were recorder by his disciples.
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:49 am

i do believe in god
and the bible, i dont think it's always the same from the begining
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:46 am

even if i was christian i would NEVER take the bible literally. you just cant there would be lingering evidence. and there just isnt any. no humans did NOT exist during the time of dinosaurs. cave paintings of early humans never ONCE involved a dinosaur as well we never find human remains alongside dinosaurs just doesnt happen.

evolution isnt as simple as apes creating men either thats a misconception. evolution states that we shared a common ancestor with apes. and if you follow this you can also theorize that every animal has a common ancestor. evidence in fossils support this theory. it makes much more sense then spontaneous generation

the earth is millions of years old. there is proof pointing to this.
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:48 pm

I haven't read much but I did see someone say God hates homosexual, or a pile a sticks,. Actually he hates homosexuality, and he doesn't hate the person he despises the things they do and it is an abomination his eyes. I SERIOUSLY doubt it says he hates blacks... You probably just read something about the 7 plagues and immediately thought it meant he hates blacks or something. It's not cool to twist verses like I have seen a few examples of already, same thing the bible says that satan does.... he twisted words in the bible when he brought Jesus to that huge hillside and said he would give Jesus all the earth if he would bow down to him. I never did know how dinosaurs fit in and I really don't care either. I know I certainly don't have all the answers as it seems most of us try to act like. I'm just going to let you know now this argument will never end until you die and find out the truth. I'm going to ask you one simple question since you guys are so smart, where did matter come from?
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:11 pm

light_alistor wrote:even if i was christian i would NEVER take the bible literally. you just cant there would be lingering evidence. and there just isnt any. no humans did NOT exist during the time of dinosaurs. cave paintings of early humans never ONCE involved a dinosaur as well we never find human remains alongside dinosaurs just doesnt happen.

evolution isnt as simple as apes creating men either thats a misconception. evolution states that we shared a common ancestor with apes. and if you follow this you can also theorize that every animal has a common ancestor. evidence in fossils support this theory. it makes much more sense then spontaneous generation

the earth is millions of years old. there is proof pointing to this.


Yea, I'm not too sure about what all Evolution is, but if we are suppose to be evolving, why have we been humans for thousands of years?

I have no idea if dinosaurs, well actually "behemoths" and "leviathans" existed along with man but think about this:

Ok heres the world, and there are No dinosaurs. There are also no Humans.

Then all of a sudden "poof" here are dinosaurs. Hundreds of years pass or w/e. And "poof" dinosaurs are gone

Time passes "poof" all of a sudden humans showed up.

That doesn't make sense to me. Like dinosaurs where supposedly here for millions of years or so, and no humans where around. Then all of a sudden they die. Then all of a sudden humans pop up.


@Ace. Well I have no idea where matter came from, maybe God just made the world? :D
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:37 pm

Well I mean that's what I think lol. I just don't see how anything else can explain it, other then the fact God made it. If he didn't then where did it come from?
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:40 pm

Yea, I knew what you mean :P. I'm sure some people have made up some crazy explanation that people believe, but to me, everything is so clear.
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:53 pm

AdventWolf wrote:
light_alistor wrote:even if i was christian i would NEVER take the bible literally. you just cant there would be lingering evidence. and there just isnt any. no humans did NOT exist during the time of dinosaurs. cave paintings of early humans never ONCE involved a dinosaur as well we never find human remains alongside dinosaurs just doesnt happen.

evolution isnt as simple as apes creating men either thats a misconception. evolution states that we shared a common ancestor with apes. and if you follow this you can also theorize that every animal has a common ancestor. evidence in fossils support this theory. it makes much more sense then spontaneous generation

the earth is millions of years old. there is proof pointing to this.


Yea, I'm not too sure about what all Evolution is, but if we are suppose to be evolving, why have we been humans for thousands of years?

I have no idea if dinosaurs, well actually "behemoths" and "leviathans" existed along with man but think about this:

Ok heres the world, and there are No dinosaurs. There are also no Humans.

Then all of a sudden "poof" here are dinosaurs. Hundreds of years pass or w/e. And "poof" dinosaurs are gone

Time passes "poof" all of a sudden humans showed up.

That doesn't make sense to me. Like dinosaurs where supposedly here for millions of years or so, and no humans where around. Then all of a sudden they die. Then all of a sudden humans pop up.


@Ace. Well I have no idea where matter came from, maybe God just made the world? :D
actaully people have evolved.
people live MUCH longer, people are MUCH teller, people are MUCH stronger, and people are MUCH smarter...
proves that we have evolved
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:12 pm

And there has been hair loss. But people are always getting smarter and taller, that is just how it goes. Its in our genes. People lived longer in the Bible times. The reason people live longer not is not simply because we have "evolved". lol it is because we have great health care and can take medicine and shots to not get sick. That is why we live longer, technology, vitamins, and all that helps our bodies be more healthy so we live longer.
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:25 pm

AdventWolf wrote:Time passes "poof" all of a sudden humans showed up.


As I already stated, humans are genetically engineered by a higher intelligence.
No one wants to accept this because it sounds crazy but it is true and supported by the fossil record AND the bible.

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Genesis 1:26

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness(If god was a single being, that is not what he would say), and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Genesis 2:21
So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep (anesthesia?); and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs (for DNA?)and closed up the place with flesh(Surgery?).

How else would you describe these concepts to a mind unfamiliar with these terms?

The New Testament of the bible was done mostly by the followers of Jesus Christ. The Old testament is basically the Torah which are the first 5 books of the bible. I do not know how it originated. Some people credit Moses. The rest of the old testament were books that the old Roman Catholics threw in when they were compiling the bible as we know it today. There were many "books" circulating at the time some of them pertained to history and battles long fought (Masada) some were family genealogies but not all of them made it into what we know as the bible because they did not go along with the churches views at the time. Anyone interested in some of what was left out should seek to find the "Common Bible".

I want to see the passage that states god does not like blacks. Did he not create them? Let me ask one of my local Clan members, perhaps they know exactly were the passage is.
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