Official Religion Debate Thread

I can read up on those later but I am busy atm. Just to let you know, you have taken stuff out of context before.

well yah lol
its just i always do that to help my own cause.
But most the ones i put on here were not taken out of context because most i have checked but just saying

but Christians do the same, from the KKK, to the civil war where bible was used to prove slavery was good, to right now which it is used against gay and lesbians..

but i dont take those where taken out of context?

Slavery was taken out of context, but I don't think gays and lesbians are. Slavery was never praised in the Bible, one of the most popular Bible figures was sold into slavery.

Joseph before he married Jesus's mom?

That was a different Joseph
One was sold into slavery by his bros then eventually became the governor of Egypt or something.
Another was the Joseph that was with Mary.

No that was Moses who ruled Egypt.

Slavery was taken out of context, but I don't think gays and lesbians are. Slavery was never praised in the Bible, one of the most popular Bible figures was sold into slavery.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Work hard, but not just to please your masters when they are watching. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart. (Ephesians 6:6 NLT)

Work with enthusiasm, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people. (Ephesians 6:7 NLT)



However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

so the bible doesnt support slavery? than whats this?

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lol i dont know, he said i take stuff out of context and that made me mad

but lol look at these, proof of hate that bible creates LOL I LOVE THESE SITES
the Westboro Baptist Church owns several sites including homosexual, or a pile a sticks,.com, GodHatesAmerica.com, GodHatesCanada.com and GodHatesSweden.com.

Give it up or I will quit defending you.

Give it up or I will quit defending you.

why?

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

It says "servants" not slaves in the Bible. It just tells them to not be unruly, God is saying that you should be obedient and basically don't bite the hand that feeds you, in a sense to respect your employer.

Work hard, but not just to please your masters when they are watching. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart. (Ephesians 6:6 NLT)

The true verse reads as follows: Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.
This has nothing to do with slavery, all it states is work wholeheartedly and not just when people are looking.

Work with enthusiasm, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people. (Ephesians 6:7 NLT)

That has nothing to do with slavery.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Where the hell did you get this reference? Did you make it up or something, this is totally opposite of mine. Mine speaks for Israel not to treat each other with rigor, and it speaks of maids but it just tells them to respect them.

so the bible doesnt support slavery? than whats this?

Well there you have it, like 3 of those versus had nothing to do with slavery.
.. it is true that you take stuff out of context, like before when it spoke about the death to unbelievers. That was an OATH among men, not a pledge from God.


And I'm guessing those sites are where you copied this stuff from.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

It says "servants" not slaves in the Bible. It just tells them to not be unruly, God is saying that you should be obedient and basically don't bite the hand that feeds you, in a sense to respect your employer.
according to the New American Standard Bible (©1995) is says slaves.
http://bible.cc/ephesians/6-5.htm

Work hard, but not just to please your masters when they are watching. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart. (Ephesians 6:6 NLT)

The true verse reads as follows: Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.
This has nothing to do with slavery, all it states is work wholeheartedly and not just when people are looking.
dont take my word for it, it says is in searchgodsword.org
http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?que ... sr=1&t=nlt

Work with enthusiasm, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people. (Ephesians 6:7 NLT)

That has nothing to do with slavery.
im justing saying it to show im not taking it out of context, and its telling slaves to do so since it follows 6:5 and 6:6

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Where the hell did you get this reference? Did you make it up or something, this is totally opposite of mine. Mine speaks for Israel not to treat each other with rigor, and it speaks of maids but it just tells them to respect them.

dont take my word for is, here it is on biblegateway.com
scroll down till you get there
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?bo ... chapter=25

so the bible doesnt support slavery? than whats this?

Well there you have it, like 3 of those versus had nothing to do with slavery.
.. it is true that you take stuff out of context, like before when it spoke about the death to unbelievers. That was an OATH among men, not a pledge from God.


And I'm guessing those sites are where you copied this stuff from.

and not those aren't these sites, i got these from my OWN, research of the bible, except some of the parts where the bible talks about killing people, which i got form other people, and i looked them up in the bible

Give it up or I will quit defending you.

why?

Because I think you are causing the thread to go in circles and as everyone knows if you drive in circles no matter how long you go around you end up NOWHERE.

I think you have made your point several times. No one wants to completely accept EVERYTHING you say. I say accept that. Now lets move on.

I want to learn from others and I am sure you do to.

Give it up or I will quit defending you.

why?

Because I think you are causing the thread to go in circles and as everyone knows if you drive in circles no matter how long you go around you end up NOWHERE.

I think you have made your point several times. No one wants to completely accept EVERYTHING you say. I say accept that. Now lets move on.

I want to learn from others and I am sure you do to.

yah i agree, ok i wont say anything anymore, unless someone try's to say something about what i posted or said.

but yah i wanna hear other people

Any ideas on what a soul is?