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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:43 am

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Diehard335 wrote:oh, and BTW, I'm From Canada, not the U.S. Meaning I'm CANADIAN -> which is technically not American.


Absolutely not. Technically your are "British"! :wink:


Technically they need to choose. They act American but claim to be British :lol:
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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:53 am

I thought they wanted to be American...Till the value of the dollar dipped below the pound. :-p
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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:43 pm

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que13x wrote:
Diehard335 wrote:oh, and BTW, I'm From Canada, not the U.S. Meaning I'm CANADIAN -> which is technically not American.


Absolutely not. Technically your are "British"! :wink:


Technically they need to choose. They act American but claim to be British :lol:


That's proof that they act Canadian... isn't it? lol

But the video about Hitler being like Obama merely because he draws crowds and oratory skill is ridiculous (diehard or farQ posted it on the first page).

EDIT- And OMG, watch that video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTp_atr2G9E and make sure to pay attention to the crowd in the scene just after the 3 minute mark where all of the people are bowing down-like. Watch the row closest to the camera. SO FUNNY!!!

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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:46 pm

I wouldn't compare Obama to anyone until he is finished with his administration.

I do agree that comparing him to Hitler is a bit unfair, so is comparing him to Dr. King.
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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:59 pm

Diehard335 wrote:oh, and BTW, I'm From Canada, not the U.S. Meaning I'm CANADIAN -> which is technically not American.

Well, technically, technically you are.
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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:23 pm

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farquezy wrote:oh im majorly sorry didnt cross my mind that i might come across as a little biatch.
Its just how un-informed most Americans are about this topic makes me really frustrated.


Well considering you contradict your own post and occasional are grossly misinformed yourself, what makes you a subject matter expert?

Here are a two reasons why Americans associate Iran with terror:

1. In March 2006, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, “Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions like Lebanon through Hezbollah in the Middle East, in the Palestinian Territories, and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq.”

2. U.S. Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell said in June 2007 there is “overwhelming evidence” that Iran supports terrorists in Iraq and “compelling” evidence that it does the same in Afghanistan.

So you mean to tell US here on this thread that our leadership made up of individuals with PHD level degrees are grossly mistaken and that you that barely remembers living overthere are an expert on the topic and you ain't even out of highschool yet?
i hope your joking because they said they had WMD AT IRAQ
wonder how that turned out

and sure im misinformed a lot sure but isnt everyone
and how did i contradict my post
also w.e dude believe them, get in another war and regret it 5 years later when 4 million Iranians have died and 15,000 american soldiers.

I just dont know and i dont care anymore
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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:41 pm

farquezy wrote:i hope your joking because they said they had WMD AT IRAQ
wonder how that turned out

and sure im misinformed a lot sure but isnt everyone
and how did i contradict my post
also w.e dude believe them, get in another war and regret it 5 years later when 4 million Iranians have died and 15,000 american soldiers.

I just dont know and i dont care anymore
f the world

WAIT don't go! I'm not finished yet!

CIA lied about WMD in Iraq because Cheney pressured the director George Tennet to do so. They were also being fed false information from some operative called "curveball" If you want to know more read a book called "Hubris" and it will explain it all.

Besides, WMD in Iraq has nothing to do with Ahmedinejad gloating about enriching uranium. Here is a Russian link since I don't think you would trust Fox or CNN: http://en.rian.ru/world/20080408/104023839.html

Here is a Russian link revealing the 6000 Chinese centrifuges that serve no civilian purpose which are being used to enrich the uranium that is supposedly fueling the electric plants en.rian.ru/world/20080408/104023839.html

Enrichment isn't required to provide electricity.

The contradiction in your post is evident by it's title alone "lmao U.S. funds Iran's Nukes!!!" You didn't queue the video to 2:07 to hear the part about the weapons like I suggested did you?

Please correct me if I am wrong but is it not true that Iran mostly backs Islamist groups, including the Lebanese Shiite militants of Hezbollah which Iran helped found in the 1980s and such Palestinian terrorist groups as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad? Is this more lies?

Do I need to find you news clips of when Hamas won the Palestinian Authority elections in early 2006 and how Iran donated $50 million to the near-bankrupt Palestinian Authority after wards?

How much more evidence is needed?

OK now I am done. WE can move on.
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Post Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:35 pm

What the hell is this thread turning into, Back to Obama! BTW, If They had a WMD, We'd know it by now...
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Post Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:48 pm

If they did have them, they probably had enough time to hide them. It might have been possible to see them with our satellites though. My history teacher told me that Israel showed the US some satellite footage of the stuff.
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Post Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:37 pm

AdventWolf wrote:If they did have them, they probably had enough time to hide them. It might have been possible to see them with our satellites though. My history teacher told me that Israel showed the US some satellite footage of the stuff.


They did have them back in the 80 when the US sold it to them in the war vs Iran. The stockpiles were found and destroyed in 1991. The disposal was done improperly and resulted in the mysterious "Gulf War Syndrome" Do your research if you want to learn more.

The fact that none have been found and that it is common knowledge that Saddam had used them in the past should be proof that they no longer exist.

I personally wouldn't trust anything Israel claims. It is not in America's best interest to defend or support Israel. Supposedly the only reason we do is because the CIA is not capable of gaining reliable intel on countries in the middle east. Aside from that I don't know what of value Israel has to offer America.
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Post Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:47 pm

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farquezy wrote:oh im majorly sorry didnt cross my mind that i might come across as a little biatch.
Its just how un-informed most Americans are about this topic makes me really frustrated.


Well considering you contradict your own post and occasional are grossly misinformed yourself, what makes you a subject matter expert?

Here are a two reasons why Americans associate Iran with terror:

1. In March 2006, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, “Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions like Lebanon through Hezbollah in the Middle East, in the Palestinian Territories, and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq.”

2. U.S. Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell said in June 2007 there is “overwhelming evidence” that Iran supports terrorists in Iraq and “compelling” evidence that it does the same in Afghanistan.

So you mean to tell US here on this thread that our leadership made up of individuals with PHD level degrees are grossly mistaken and that you that barely remembers living overthere are an expert on the topic and you ain't even out of highschool yet?




I would like to know what this "overwhelming evidence" is. Just because someone says it doesn't make it so. I am persian as well and agree with what most of faquezy says. There is no proof pointing to Iran that they have nukes are can obtain them. Iran is quite a poor country and to think that these people are capable of getting a nuke is one thing and then think that they have the audacity to launch a nuke at America is even more laughable. America's ignorance amazes me.
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Post Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:49 pm

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Diehard335 wrote:oh, and BTW, I'm From Canada, not the U.S. Meaning I'm CANADIAN -> which is technically not American.

Well, technically, technically you are.
(You're North American! ;) )
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Post Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:02 pm

JustinWoodypond wrote:I would like to know what this "overwhelming evidence" is. Just because someone says it doesn't make it so. I am persian as well and agree with what most of faquezy says. There is no proof pointing to Iran that they have nukes are can obtain them. Iran is quite a poor country and to think that these people are capable of getting a nuke is one thing and then think that they have the audacity to launch a nuke at America is even more laughable. America's ignorance amazes me.


I love how expatriots always continue on defending the land they abandoned.

I am done on Iran. My last post pretty much seals the deal on Iran. If their prime minister didn't say those things then it is odd how the confusion seemed to go around the world in so little time.

I don't know what Obama is going to do except play it by ear. Lots of people have high expectations for him and his administration the truth is that we will have to wait and see what he does and how much patience the people have for the change they are expecting.
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Post Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:34 pm

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JustinWoodypond wrote:I would like to know what this "overwhelming evidence" is. Just because someone says it doesn't make it so. I am persian as well and agree with what most of faquezy says. There is no proof pointing to Iran that they have nukes are can obtain them. Iran is quite a poor country and to think that these people are capable of getting a nuke is one thing and then think that they have the audacity to launch a nuke at America is even more laughable. America's ignorance amazes me.


I love how expatriots always continue on defending the land they abandoned.

I am done on Iran. My last post pretty much seals the deal on Iran. If their prime minister didn't say those things then it is odd how the confusion seemed to go around the world in so little time.

I don't know what Obama is going to do except play it by ear. Lots of people have high expectations for him and his administration the truth is that we will have to wait and see what he does and how much patience the people have for the change they are expecting.


I don't understand that how I'm Persian means that I lived in Iran. My family is from there, so don't go around spouting things you don't know. If you're American and not raised in any other culture its a different understanding. You obviously don't look at things from different perspectives, and if you did, you would probably see all the stuff that America has done to become powerful and have more weapons and things to destroy the countries that you think are a threat to us. If you think for a minute that Iran or any other Middle Eastern country is a threat to us, then you need to go look at the things the CIA has done in history.

I didn't mean to bring previous topics up, I just don't get a lot of time to read the forums due to my school and full time work.
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Post Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:34 pm

JustinWoodypond wrote:I don't understand that how I'm Persian means that I lived in Iran. My family is from there, so don't go around spouting things you don't know.


Here is what I know:

If you never lived in Iran then you aren't Persian. I don't care where your parents or grandparents are from. I know so many people that claim to be Italian but don't speak the language or have never been near Italy that it's a joke. Bottom line, IF you were born on American soil you are American, end of story. I don't understand why people insist on carrying on traditions from their "home" countries when they seem content in the one they are in, that goes for everybody.

Yea yea yea America is the melting pot made up of different cultures but here is where we tend to forget our history.
When the English settled here they encountered the indians. Those people were made up of many different cultures too. Now you tell me how many are left? Divided we fall, A house divided can not stand. This is where I am coming from and that is my point on diverse cultures. America has it's own culture just like every country on earth does. No one is forced into being American, in fact you can give up your citizenship at any time.

I have acknowledged somewhere on this board that Iran is probably one of the most stable and powerful countries in the middle east capable of producing in the range of a million uniformed soldiers at a moments notice. This fact alone makes Iran something to consider with extreme caution. I state facts and show where I get my info most of the time. If I have ever stated anything wrong about Iran it wasn't because I made it up.

I would say I am an authority at least on this board on the CIA and it's monumental F'ups. I eluded to that in my post before this one. If you think I am attacking "Persians" or the Iranian people then you need to read my words more carefully.

Anyhow, None of what I stated was intended to imply that Iran and its people needed to be wiped from the map or was a direct threat to the US. I just wanted to stick to the facts that Iran wants a nuclear weapon and attaining a nuclear power plant would be a way to attain materials for such a project and that Iran sponsors groups that are considered by the UN and other countries to be terrorist organizations. If this is incorrect then let's set the record straight once and for all.

OBVIOUSLY I have never set foot in Iran I don't have anything against it's people or culture. I just don't think that if Iran did get "the bomb" that it would keep it to itself based on the fact that Iran supplies arms to many groups in the middle east including insurgents in Iraq. Iran provides arms to it's interests and can not be trusted to keep a nuclear weapon to its self. That is the point of bringing this up and why Iran is even in the headlines. It is obvious that if Iran acted directly that there would be hell to pay but has anyone considered if Iran acts indirectly?

If Ahmedinejad didn't say he intended to enrich uranium then please set the record straight.
If he didn't order thousands of centrifuges for the purpose of enriching uranium then please set the record straight.

If anyone hailing from Iran wants to defend that please go right ahead but let's not twist the issue and take/make it personal ok? :wink:
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